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Trolle 13th Aug 2004 11:50

Which school for you S.71??
 
S.71,

I am curious to know which school you are attending in Norway that offers ATPL studies in English. Looking at doing mine as well and English is my first language, Danish second.

M609 13th Aug 2004 13:58

Since S.71 has a not very clandestine username, I think I know :D


Norwegian Aviation College

MystiCKal 13th Aug 2004 17:15

I can't really recommend NAC as a flight school. First of all, it's expensive and second of all, a graduate gets 250-275 hrs TT! If you do not plan to work for SAS, then you'd be doomed with those minimal hours logged. Even though the training provided at NAC is of high quality, it doesn't really help you get a job when you only log 200+ hours! I have also heard from graduates that some of them that got hired by Ryanair had to pay for their type rating in order to work for them. Education fee is at around 700.000 NOK = 100.000 USD!!! With that money, I can get 1000+ hours with several type ratings!

If you need any suggestions of choosing a flight school. I have one in mind. Just PM ME :D

Trolle 14th Aug 2004 09:45

Just looking for a place to do the ATPL studies and tests and whether it is distance learning. I have the flight time and don't think I would have to fly much for the exams. Been flying in the US for a few years. Thanks. Just seeing what there are of options in Scandinavia, require distance learning.

BestGlide 14th Aug 2004 22:43

I will recommend NEAR: http://www.near-as.no/

....and by the way, students from NAC graduates with approx 180 hrs TT, and approx 50 hrs in simulator. Is it worth the money these days in this market?

S.71 18th Aug 2004 12:54

M609 - it's tough maintaining anominity in this part of the world... was it that obvious? ;)

Trolle, if you would like the opinion on the school from a current student your welcome to pm me!

Otherwise we have an online forum for our Pilot's Society at;

www.pilotsamfunnet.no

Here you would also be able to get in contact with present and past students... Hope this helps

Nick Figaretto 20th Aug 2004 21:34


I can't really recommend NAC as a flight school.
How can you not recommend something you haven't tried, MystiCKal?

And how can you recommend "your" school when you haven't started there yet?

MystiCKal 20th Aug 2004 22:16


How can you not recommend something you haven't tried, MystiCKal?
Didn't you read my previous post? Well to round up what I said... NAC is expensive for one and a graduate comes out with minimal hours. Doesn't really help if the training is of the highest quality... The 200+ hrs of fixed wing is worthless in today's market. The onyl way you can get a job is through the NAC accredited partners such as SAS and RyanAir. SAS is not doing so well at the moment so recruitment has been halted as for RyanAir, the graduate has to further pay for their type rating in working for RA.


And how can you recommend "your" school when you haven't started there yet?
Erm.. Where did you get the idea that I haven't started yet :P

Cloud surfer 21st Aug 2004 22:38

maybe..
 
I'm not about to enter into a long argument of abinitio/modular training. I just want to correct a previously made statement.


"The 200+ hrs of fixed wing is worthless in today's market. The onyl way you can get a job is through the NAC accredited partners such as SAS and RyanAir"

false.

In the last 12 months, 200h NAC students have been hired by:

Monarch Airlines (A320)
Easyjet (737)
Neos Air (737)
Norwegian (737)
Flyme (737)
Ryanair (737)

(these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head. can anyone supplement this list?)


This is not used as an argument as to which route is better. It's just a correction of facts. Discussion is good, but keep to the facts.

Nick Figaretto 23rd Aug 2004 06:35


Erm.. Where did you get the idea that I haven't started yet :P
From topic "Scandinavians :D"


P.S. You still have time to apply for the September class which I am already enrolled in Keep in mind, not so many places LEFT!!!
So you just started, then. Good luck. Hope your enthusiasm lasts.


When it comes to recommendations: Can you recommend a wine you haven't tasted? (Especially if you haven't ever tasted wine before...?) Can you recommend a movie you haven't seen? Can you recommend someone not to take a drivers' license if you haven't taken one yourself?

You may or may not have many valid reasons for picking one school or an other. I don't argue with your arguments at all, cause it's not my point.

I'm just asking how you can recommend not to do something you haven't tried yourself.

Cloud surfer 23rd Aug 2004 19:56

can't resist
 

Can somebody tell me what PIC is? And how I can get 500 hrs of for the APTL?


Glass Cockpit Training Course? What is it exactly?? Is it a plus to have completed that course?


Ab initio programs... Do they stand a chance or is it just a waste of time?


I heard that students at DCA (Comair) wear light blue shirts with black trousers... Why in the world do they have blue shirts?!? When everyone else have white shirts with black pants and tie? I find that quite strange...


I'd say you haven't started yet.

Nick Figaretto 24th Aug 2004 09:12

:} :} :} :}

I heard that students at DCA (Comair) wear light blue shirts with black trousers... Why in the world do they have blue shirts?!? When everyone else have white shirts with black pants and tie? I find that quite strange...
-One of the many puzzeling mysteries of aviation...

MystiCKal 26th Aug 2004 05:47

/me wows at the power of the "search button" :P


When it comes to recommendations: Can you recommend a wine you haven't tasted? (Especially if you haven't ever tasted wine before...?) Can you recommend a movie you haven't seen? Can you recommend someone not to take a drivers' license if you haven't taken one yourself?
You're right on that one but I can still base it on the "successfull" students (my friends) who have gone through with the PEA program. One have graduated and is working as a Flight Instructor... The other is a fulltime Flight Instructor while studying at Embry. I have also got the opportunity to talk with both of them individually. And I guess if they can recommend the flight school, I guess I'll base my instincts on trusting them and thus "recommending" it myself despite the override of a biased POV... Sorry to those who have attended that same school. I guess we all aren't that lucky...

MD900 Explorer 26th Aug 2004 19:24

ATPL Studies
 
Trolle

Just getting back to the subject, why don't you approach Bristol Ground School for the ATPL/A Books Bristol Ground School and save a fortune by not getting the texts from a flight school and then approach an FTO and say that you have the FAA CPL/A (If that is what you have) and get accreditation for the hours of previous study.

As i understand it you have to sit the theory and do the flight test in the same country, so then you find a cheap flight school where you can get the flight checked out and pass the JAR CPL/A.

Just a thought.

Good luck with your ATPL Exams and check ride. :ok:

MD:ok:

Trolle 27th Aug 2004 05:35

MD...

It sounds like a good idea. I haven't thought of buying all the books through the school, I used to work at one myself and I know that you can always find them cheaper elsewhere. I can't start stuyding them though until I enroll, at least that is my opinion. So, still looking for a school. I have been discussing with a few of them, mainly in Scandinavia. Distance learning hasn't really caught on over here though.

air-hag 9th Sep 2004 18:08

testfire.................................................... .........

duece19 24th Sep 2004 20:51

Cloud surfer

Just out of curiosity, you said that NAC students were hired by FlyMe. Were the lucky ones hired with 200h TT?

There reason for asking are my friends, whom are holders of a 737 typerating, but with no significant experience, and they cant even get an interview, given the reason that the insurance company does not approve lowtimers/low on type!!!

I just wanted to know if there has been lowtimers hired before or were they a bit further then just out of school?

Cheers / duece

GRIFFIN2000 25th Sep 2004 13:44

The person you are talking about was fresh out of school with only 200TT. So was the one flying 737 for Neos in Italy. This also applies to all the others now flying for Ryan, Easy, Monarch, Astreus...


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duece19 28th Sep 2004 23:11

Great for him/her.

I know pleanty of lowtimers who got their jetjob straight away, and so did I. Was just curious to hear in the FlyMe case, as I said earlier.

thanks

Duece


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