Norwegian Long Haul - selection and terms
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Norwegian Long Haul - selection and terms
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Am a heavy Boeing operator and noted a few months ago that Norwegian Long Haul through Rishworth were looking for experienced Boeing pilots. Sent in my papers and will shortly attend the screening.
Does anyone know what the two online tests are all about? Anyway to prepare?
Does anyone know what the sim-ride (seems like a standard PC and will be in a B737NG) and interview is like? Relaxed? What are the criteria they look for in general? People who failed, what did they do wrong?
Finally, what’s the latest with the deal of having a BKK-base? Will that just be on paper, and that you actually work out of – for example – Stockholm or Oslo? Permanent employment in the future, or is Norwegian Long Haul prepared to take the risk of having 300 – 400 pilots in the future on contracts and no one employed? For me that sounds suicidal. After the bond (3 years) probably quite a few pilots would go to other companies with better conditions (and have a valuable rating).
Thanks for all input regarding the above (for one that is even considering not to show up on the screening due to the contract at hand).
Am a heavy Boeing operator and noted a few months ago that Norwegian Long Haul through Rishworth were looking for experienced Boeing pilots. Sent in my papers and will shortly attend the screening.
Does anyone know what the two online tests are all about? Anyway to prepare?
Does anyone know what the sim-ride (seems like a standard PC and will be in a B737NG) and interview is like? Relaxed? What are the criteria they look for in general? People who failed, what did they do wrong?
Finally, what’s the latest with the deal of having a BKK-base? Will that just be on paper, and that you actually work out of – for example – Stockholm or Oslo? Permanent employment in the future, or is Norwegian Long Haul prepared to take the risk of having 300 – 400 pilots in the future on contracts and no one employed? For me that sounds suicidal. After the bond (3 years) probably quite a few pilots would go to other companies with better conditions (and have a valuable rating).
Thanks for all input regarding the above (for one that is even considering not to show up on the screening due to the contract at hand).
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Aight, I'll give it a go then. LH operation is as of now on hold as far as I know. Course starts have been cancelled (or rather postponed). The selection consists of a personality test, online IQ test (whats the next figure etc. Pretty standards stuff from what I hear), HR interview and a sim check. Sim is done on the 737. Not sure about profiles etc but should be pretty standards as well (SID, eng fail, approach and land). They want normal decent pilots who know what they're doing. That's it.
Deal wise it's very difficult to say what roster etc is gonna look like. I don't think they know it themselves. Remember, the LH operation is brand new so things are changing constantly.
Best of luck!
Deal wise it's very difficult to say what roster etc is gonna look like. I don't think they know it themselves. Remember, the LH operation is brand new so things are changing constantly.
Best of luck!
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I understand that the following video may be relevant
Duracell Bunny Commercial UK - YouTube
Or perhaps an A340 rating
Duracell Bunny Commercial UK - YouTube
Or perhaps an A340 rating
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Thank you LeftHeadingNorth.
We'll see how picky they are keeping in mind the contract at hand.
If I understand it correct, they expect pilots rated on heavy equipment (that most probably already have a job), JAR/EASA ATPL holders, that have the right to live and work in the EU/EES (like most asians don't have), to move to Bangkok away from your friends and family, rent an apartment, get paid offshore, pay your own taxes and have no social security at all?
Well, where do i sign up?!
We'll see how picky they are keeping in mind the contract at hand.
If I understand it correct, they expect pilots rated on heavy equipment (that most probably already have a job), JAR/EASA ATPL holders, that have the right to live and work in the EU/EES (like most asians don't have), to move to Bangkok away from your friends and family, rent an apartment, get paid offshore, pay your own taxes and have no social security at all?
Well, where do i sign up?!
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Larscho, that seems to be an interim solution if the B787 is delayed. I can not imagine they will use the A340 as a permanent solution, being very thirsty.
And I don’t get my longed Bangkok-base…
And I don’t get my longed Bangkok-base…
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BTW - Thai Tax Authorities well aware of the upcoming game.
Fully aware of living/working charade in the kingdom.
Not nice not to hire qualified Thai citizens, due to no European
passport, and come play in the backyard.
Be fully warned. Unfortunately you dissed the wrong Thai guy.
Sawadee Khap
Fully aware of living/working charade in the kingdom.
Not nice not to hire qualified Thai citizens, due to no European
passport, and come play in the backyard.
Be fully warned. Unfortunately you dissed the wrong Thai guy.
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I still can´t understand why anybody would fly around with the callsign "whoreshuttle", and continue to **** up the airline industry.........I guess I´m oldschool.
A friend of mine working for Norwegian (he is not proud of it, and I have told him what I think about it) was called on standby to JUMPSEAT......The captain on the flight was not to shure that the first officer could get the airplane on the ground safely, if something happend to him.
Sorry, probably wrong thread.....but info for somebody who is considering Norwegian.
A friend of mine working for Norwegian (he is not proud of it, and I have told him what I think about it) was called on standby to JUMPSEAT......The captain on the flight was not to shure that the first officer could get the airplane on the ground safely, if something happend to him.
Sorry, probably wrong thread.....but info for somebody who is considering Norwegian.
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I believe what you are referring to is called Safety Pilot. A common practice to enhance the safety on the first few sectors of Line Training. Common practice, not only at Norwegian.
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Common practice where? I have never heard of any airline doing this. If the copilot has been through the sim course and passed the checkride, why would there be any doubt about the copilot being able to get the plane on the ground if something happened to the check airman?
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"I still can´t understand why anybody would fly around with the callsign "whoreshuttle", and continue to **** up the airline industry.........I guess I´m oldschool.
A friend of mine working for Norwegian (he is not proud of it, and I have told him what I think about it) was called on standby to JUMPSEAT......The captain on the flight was not to shure that the first officer could get the airplane on the ground safely, if something happend to him
Sorry, probably wrong thread.....but info for somebody who is considering Norwegian."
Oh Dear.
What a spot on descrition from someone who is clearly a candidate for the position as a vise president of my club.
Nyhellesund shows that he has at least passed the age of 15 with his informative and valuable information. The fact that he also is taking upon himself the resposibility to tell his friend about what he thinks about the company, tells us that Nyhellesund clearly must be of some importance. I am sure his friend quit Norwegian when Nyhellesund told him.
The hatered You show for Norwegian and their employees may indicate to some degree Your mental stability and capacity. I am sure You are safe in the cockpit. That is indeed if You are placed in such enviroment. I am also sure it must be a history behind Your passion for the company. I am not indicating that You got turned down by them. Someone else might think so, but I am sure they must be mistaken.
Old school or not, this and Your previous postings made You a distinguished member of this club.
Post Your full name and address so I can mail You a membership card. If Your mothers address for some obscure reason is different from Yours, post hers also so I can send a card to her as well. She also deserves a membership for giving birth to a fine specimen such as Yourself.
nyhellesund
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"I still can´t understand why anybody would fly around with the callsign "whoreshuttle", and continue to **** up the airline industry.........I guess I´m oldschool.
A friend of mine working for Norwegian (he is not proud of it, and I have told him what I think about it) was called on standby to JUMPSEAT......The captain on the flight was not to shure that the first officer could get the airplane on the ground safely, if something happend to him
Sorry, probably wrong thread.....but info for somebody who is considering Norwegian."
Oh Dear.
What a spot on descrition from someone who is clearly a candidate for the position as a vise president of my club.
Nyhellesund shows that he has at least passed the age of 15 with his informative and valuable information. The fact that he also is taking upon himself the resposibility to tell his friend about what he thinks about the company, tells us that Nyhellesund clearly must be of some importance. I am sure his friend quit Norwegian when Nyhellesund told him.
The hatered You show for Norwegian and their employees may indicate to some degree Your mental stability and capacity. I am sure You are safe in the cockpit. That is indeed if You are placed in such enviroment. I am also sure it must be a history behind Your passion for the company. I am not indicating that You got turned down by them. Someone else might think so, but I am sure they must be mistaken.
Old school or not, this and Your previous postings made You a distinguished member of this club.
Post Your full name and address so I can mail You a membership card. If Your mothers address for some obscure reason is different from Yours, post hers also so I can send a card to her as well. She also deserves a membership for giving birth to a fine specimen such as Yourself.
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Great post idiotsrus, I would also like a membership application as I work in NAS too, so must be deserving
I don't know which companies Viking767 & nyhelllesund work/have worked for, but everywhere I have been has rostered a "safety pilot" for 1st few sectors of Line Training (to take some of the load off the Training Capt as much as anything ) Common industry practice, no idea which planet these two have operated on.
as I work in NAS too, so must be deserving I don't know which companies Viking767 & nyhelllesund work/have worked for, but everywhere I have been has rostered a "safety pilot" for 1st few sectors of Line Training (to take some of the load off the Training Capt as much as anything ) Common industry practice, no idea which planet these two have operated on.
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Captplaystation, I am not trying to start a fight here. Just noting that I have never heard of this practice anywhere. And I do believe we operate on the same planet,sometimes even on the same continent.
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As CPS says its common practice and usually the dutys of the safety pilot are only to do a bit of the company paperwork so as to take some of the non flying workload off the captain in the early stages of line training.
Oh ! It is also not unusual for the safety pilot to ensure an adequate supply of tea & coffee.
In thirty years I have yet to hear of a safety pilot being called to fly the aircraft.
Oh ! It is also not unusual for the safety pilot to ensure an adequate supply of tea & coffee.
In thirty years I have yet to hear of a safety pilot being called to fly the aircraft.
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Been there, done that: "Safety Pilot" for a certain middle east airline with brand new F/Os onbard. I was a fairly senior F/O and as such ended up in the left seat to train the new F/O in the right seat at cruise while the Captain sat back in First Class dining and socializing. He usually left the flight deck in the climb at 10,000' and returned in the descent passing 10,000'. They paid me 80% of Captains pay and I had the dubious status of being a Training F/O or some such thing..
A bit unusual and not like the NAS program but different strokes for different folks and yes, it was on the same planet.
A bit unusual and not like the NAS program but different strokes for different folks and yes, it was on the same planet.
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Standard procedure in some Asian carriers including all Japanese ones. A qualified FO sits in the jumpseat until the newly trained pilot in the right seat receives his or hers blessing to operate as Pilot Monitoring
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Standard practice to have a safety pilot for the first few sectors in all airlines that I have been with. AKA Paperwork Bitch. And Chief Brewer-up.
Not too sure I'd be happy with an airline that didn't bother or consider it necessary. "Skimping" is not a good word in flying...
Better training value too so the Instructor can instruct, and not have all the paperwork to do!
Not too sure I'd be happy with an airline that didn't bother or consider it necessary. "Skimping" is not a good word in flying...
Better training value too so the Instructor can instruct, and not have all the paperwork to do!