olepilot

SAS har meddelat oss att man tisdagen den 14 juni kl 18 kommer att lägga ut info om anställningar på SAS hemsida www.sasgroup.net.
Förutom de piloter som sades upp under 2009, åligger det den enskilde piloten att själv ta kontakt med SAS.

LN-MOW

Postet nå:

http://www.sasgroup.net/SASGROUP_CAR..._Vacancies.asp

bfisk

De linker til www.sasflightops.com for betingelser og vilkår. Noen som klarer å åpne denne, evt vet hva noe mer hva det går på? For alle oss som er utenfor systemet...

Icenor

Inital CRM - Tenker de da på CRM undervisningen man fikk i forbindelse med MCC kurset, eller er dette et eget opplegg?

olepilot

It might not be the biggest office in the company, but it's got the best view - and we're now hiring more pilots to occupy this and other offices at 33.000 feet! Yes, we are hiring pilots to our bases in Oslo, Stockholm and Copenhagen! Read more and apply here: SAS Group SAS Group - New SAS pilots

minimumunstick

"digital copy of criminal record"

****, looks like they are only hiring criminals this time

CoolHandleLuke

Hvad med piloter der blev fyret tilbage i 2003 (ca.)? De hører vil også med som "former SAS pilots"....

Det kunne være interessant at vide hvor mange der søger i forhold til antallet af ledige stillinger... og hvor mange timer (og hvilken slags timer) man skal have for at komme i betragtning som non-former SAS...

Held og lykke til alle der har lyst til at prøve!

Jet Mister

All information regarding requirement and the process of recruiting can you find here: http://www.flysas.com/en/unconnected...lot/SAS-Pilot/

Good luck to you all

Jet Mister

mrbarvid

http://www.flysas.com/en/unconnected...t/?NSSEXC=true

aozc

Does anyone know how many people they are to recruit? what type of prior experience do you think will be prefered? Is there any reason for any hope among us young low-timers?

Does anyone know if RekryC in Stockholm still will be the place where they will conduct some of the tests? and have they ditched that bloody DMT-analysis yet?

dcoded

As far as I know, they did not use rekryC for screening, maybe along time ago. But from what I've been told when I did my psychometric evaluation with Interpersona, they were responsible for the screening.

And yes, they use the DMT, and no, it's not bloody, it was a fun experience actually!

linmar

The number circulating is around 70 this year. That could well be filled with former SAS-pilot wanting to return. I think the number that left in 2009 was around 90, although around 40 of them were over 60 and involved in the dispute regarding the legality of ending their employments at the time. They lost in the first instance in both Sweden and Norway and I haven't heard anything about they appealing the verdict so they are most likely not returning. The remaining 50 were hired by various airlines including Norwegian, City Airline and some middle-east companies. As previously posted on this forum around 70 were re-hired earlier this year so not too many from 2009 can be left to re-hire now. In 2003 around 300 pilots were let go, but they have no legal right to return to the same pay grade and seniority and of the ones that left back them most would be captains by now and thus a co-pilot position on year one at SAS might not be interesting for them.

Regarding T&C rumor is that Regional Commuter might be considered again. That would mean a salary starting at around 30,000 SEK(co-pilot) + per diem and at year 8 around 60,000 (Captain) SEK + per diem. I don't know if that is going to be the case, but I guess everything will be sorted out fairly soon.

Taking a look at the annual report there is a chance to predict upcoming recruitment. The fact that SAS are now recruiting again should mean that they can't increase working hours any more among crew. So any increase in traffic and retirements of crew means hiring crew. In a press release from last year, SAS says they will increase traffic by some 25% during 2011-2014. Increasing the number of pilots with a little bit less, say 20%, will result in some 260 new hires over four years. At the same time retirements start to pick upp. From the annual report:

2011 - 10
2012 - 10
2013 - 20
2014 - 30
2015 - 75
2016 - 95
2017 - 95
2018 - 110
2019 - 90
2020 - 105

With an increase in traffic 2011-2014 the number to hire during these years should be some 70-80 per year and from 2015 the retirements are really picking up so the recruitment should even increase from now on. Another aspect is training. A lot of new pilots mean a lot of trainers not flying which haven't been the case lately.

Anyway, good news for everyone and good luck to all!

polazarus

So what should you do if you've been through the DMT before and know alot about it? Do you tell them? I can't imagine the test being very accurate if the person being tested knows the "secrets", or think he knows. Even if that person tried to just do the test without thinking about it, the results would be corrupted imo.

Griffin

I did the tests in 1997. No DMT!

dcoded

"So what should you do if you've been through the DMT before and know alot about it? Do you tell them? I can't imagine the test being very accurate if the person being tested knows the "secrets", or think he knows. Even if that person tried to just do the test without thinking about it, the results would be corrupted imo."

I don't know any secrets. We never discussed my answers to the test.
The test is set up like this:

You look into some kind of binocular looking thingy. And they will "flash" you a picture. The first time the picture was showed so fast that I could not make up anything of it(we are talking exosures of maybe 1/3 second. After some flashes I think they increased the exposure time and I was now asked to draw on a piece of paper what I saw, and what feeling I was getting from the picture(I remember a family photo of some kind. Mother,father and kid). This was repeated with the same picture maybe 20times, then suddenly something small changed in the picture, suddenly, the man was holding a knife in his hand and had a deamon like face.

This is all I remember of it.

polazarus

To be a bit more clear: A simple internet search for DMT would yield information that if known by someone, would affect that person's test scores. That could be a good thing or it could be a bad thing. My question is if anyone know how the recruiters would handle someone that knows what the test is all about, if he told them.

flyordie

Var i kontakt med personen som godkjenner og utsteder politiattester i Oslo. Hun sa at det ikke ville bli utstedt noen attest før ved ansettelse. Hun hadde fått inn mange søknader fra søkere til SAS, hvor alle ble avvist.

minimumunstick

Og det synes jeg er helt korrekt. Hvis politiet skal utstede politiattester til hver nordmann som skal søke pilot-jobb i SAS så blir det ufattelig mye unødvendig arbeid for dem. De har allerede nok å gjøre! Der jeg bor tar det opp til 1 måned å få politiattest.

I tillegg synes jeg det er litt merkelig at SAS krever dette ved søknad om jobb. For å være litt mer presis i språket så mener jeg egentlig at det er helt unødvendig og nesten latterlig og lite gjennomtenkt.

De vet jo godt at man må ha politiattest både for å være innehaver av et JAR-FCL sertifikat og for å f.eks få ID-kort til flyplassene. Er det slik at de tror flesteparten av søkerne deres er kriminelle?

Det er jo bare å gjennomføre intervju uten politiattest, og dersom kandidaten får jobben kan han jo bare skaffe seg dette i etterkant.. og hvis de da ikke er fornøyd eller om kandidaten ikke kvalifiserer en gang til å kunne jobbe for dem lovlig, så er jo saken grei..

What's the deal ? ?


EDIT: Det ser ut som de har tatt det ut fra kravene til selve søknaden. Da har de vel kanskje innsett at dette er praktisk talt umulig. Det står likevel under andre krav, men da krever de sikkert ikke det før etter søknadsprosessen.

Severe CAVOK

I Danmark tager det vel 10 minutter at få en politiattest... No big deal.

Griffin

Alt er dyrt og vanskelig i Norge ;-)