Scandinavian FTO's
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Scandinavian FTO's
Hey everybody.
Would you good people please post up the names of some FTO's in the Norwegian, Sweden & Denmark areas please? Preferably looking for FTO's who do integrated or back-to-back modular courses, similar to those offered in the UK & USA......except the price of course!
I know of SAS in Stockholm/Copenhagen and Patria in Finland only, but am keen to know of others in the areas mentioned.
Many thanks in advance.
Would you good people please post up the names of some FTO's in the Norwegian, Sweden & Denmark areas please? Preferably looking for FTO's who do integrated or back-to-back modular courses, similar to those offered in the UK & USA......except the price of course!
I know of SAS in Stockholm/Copenhagen and Patria in Finland only, but am keen to know of others in the areas mentioned.
Many thanks in advance.
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in sweden i know:
lidair (www.lidair.se or .com)
www.bfsaa.se (or .com)
www.flyguppdraget.com (or .se)
sturup ifr center, look it on google to find their page
The abinitio courses are pretty expensive in sweden but the modular way is very cheap in sweden compared even internationally i think
bfsaa has got a good reputation and their course cost around 470.000 swedish kronor, also add the living costs of 8 months in san diego to that and you will approximately have your cost. Doing modular in sweden would cost you around 300-400.000 swedish kronor
i'm currently doing my PPL (i'm only 17 years old) and i'm going the modular way and finishing my high school studies, i will start the ATPL-distance theory here in sweden when i've finished high school (might be too heavy else)
i can list the places where you can go for single certificates if you are interested in the modular training in sweden as well but i saw you preferably look for ab.initio
also have a look at south africa! there are pretty good deals over there i think
lidair (www.lidair.se or .com)
www.bfsaa.se (or .com)
www.flyguppdraget.com (or .se)
sturup ifr center, look it on google to find their page
The abinitio courses are pretty expensive in sweden but the modular way is very cheap in sweden compared even internationally i think
bfsaa has got a good reputation and their course cost around 470.000 swedish kronor, also add the living costs of 8 months in san diego to that and you will approximately have your cost. Doing modular in sweden would cost you around 300-400.000 swedish kronor
i'm currently doing my PPL (i'm only 17 years old) and i'm going the modular way and finishing my high school studies, i will start the ATPL-distance theory here in sweden when i've finished high school (might be too heavy else)
i can list the places where you can go for single certificates if you are interested in the modular training in sweden as well but i saw you preferably look for ab.initio
also have a look at south africa! there are pretty good deals over there i think
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Norwegian Aviation College in Bardufoss, Norway
"PROBABLY THE BEST PILOT TRAINING PROGRAMME IN THE WORLD" www.pilotutdanning.no
"PROBABLY THE BEST PILOT TRAINING PROGRAMME IN THE WORLD" www.pilotutdanning.no
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Probably the most expensive too.......
Every time I'm up there or have one of the guys in my jumpseat, I often wonder what makes a person fork out close to a million NOK (I'd charge a million just to go there and live).
Later down the road there will be poor paid jobs, and normally one settles and buy a home.....on top of that first million. You better hope for a well-to-do wife or pin your hopes to the pilot unions and their work for improved conditions (or fly till age 70 to pay it all back).
And most likely, no one will ever, ever ask where you trained............at least none of my employers ever asked.
Every time I'm up there or have one of the guys in my jumpseat, I often wonder what makes a person fork out close to a million NOK (I'd charge a million just to go there and live).
Later down the road there will be poor paid jobs, and normally one settles and buy a home.....on top of that first million. You better hope for a well-to-do wife or pin your hopes to the pilot unions and their work for improved conditions (or fly till age 70 to pay it all back).
And most likely, no one will ever, ever ask where you trained............at least none of my employers ever asked.
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No direct entry!
The funny thing is that very few people in the European aviation business have ever heard about "THE BEST PILOT TRAINING IN THE WORLD", so if you have a lot of money to spend on an illusion - go ahead!
...okey, I know they offer a very good education, but with no direct entry or anything else that can help your pilot carreer with a flying start, spend your money somewhere else!
The good news however, is that NAC is about to "merge" with University of Tromsø. They will not start a new class until that process is completed, and checked...I will guess autumn 2006.
You can also check out http://www.luftfartsskolen.no
The funny thing is that very few people in the European aviation business have ever heard about "THE BEST PILOT TRAINING IN THE WORLD", so if you have a lot of money to spend on an illusion - go ahead!
...okey, I know they offer a very good education, but with no direct entry or anything else that can help your pilot carreer with a flying start, spend your money somewhere else! The good news however, is that NAC is about to "merge" with University of Tromsø. They will not start a new class until that process is completed, and checked...I will guess autumn 2006.
You can also check out http://www.luftfartsskolen.no
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Dunno how you got it to 1. mill. nkr.:
ECONOMICS
Up to now the education has the following expences:
COSTS
Integrated training = NOK 670.000
Educational equipment and uniforms = NOK 9.000
Lodging = NOK 1.000 - 2.500 a month
CAA fees for exams = (Theroy ATPL, Skilltest CPL, RT CAA-regulations)
Oh and btw when the deal with the University starts it will be free of charge - at least thats the plan.
ECONOMICS
Up to now the education has the following expences:
COSTS
Integrated training = NOK 670.000
Educational equipment and uniforms = NOK 9.000
Lodging = NOK 1.000 - 2.500 a month
CAA fees for exams = (Theroy ATPL, Skilltest CPL, RT CAA-regulations)
Oh and btw when the deal with the University starts it will be free of charge - at least thats the plan.
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"THE BEST PILOT TRAINING IN THE WORLD"
NAC'ers are banned from my jumpseat. I got so tired of listening to their bull@#$%. The only thing they teach well in Bardufoss is arrogance.
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Educational equipment and uniforms = NOK 9.000
Ehh, uniforms?
Although paying for your uniform might prepare you for your coming "career" with Ryanair, there are few things more pathetic than stepping out of a C172 in uniform and four stripes...Howdy Captain!
On a slightly more serious note - a while ago I was looking through some ATPL manuals that were being published. They were quite good, and if I remember correctly they were published by a norwegian school. Looking at Luftfartsskolen however it seems that they use Jeppesen/Oxford manuals. Any idea which school that was?
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I'll be sure to keep that in mind should you ever need one, Flathatter. Our paths may cross out here somwhere.
USA trained pilots are banned from my jumpseat. I got so tired of listening to their bull@#$%. The only thing they teach well in America is arrogance.
NAC-trained pilots fly for SAS, British Airways, Singapore, Monarch, Easyjet, Ryanair, Excel, Air Lingus, Fly Be, Tyrolean, Widerøe, Lufttransport, Skyways, Blue One, Air Atlantic, Cimber Air, DAT, Sterling, Norwegian....
I have no problem believing you've met one - or even several - arrogant, out-of-touch 22 year olds who come form NAC.... but by-god I've met a lot of arrogant self-absorbed a$$hole pilots from other schools as well. I've had them in the right seat, and I've had them in the left seat.
If you can judge 250 pilots trained over a 10 year period as "(full of) bull@#$%" and arrogant, then you're a wiser man than me.
As for the statement in italics above, it's equally as absurd as your own post.
USA trained pilots are banned from my jumpseat. I got so tired of listening to their bull@#$%. The only thing they teach well in America is arrogance.
NAC-trained pilots fly for SAS, British Airways, Singapore, Monarch, Easyjet, Ryanair, Excel, Air Lingus, Fly Be, Tyrolean, Widerøe, Lufttransport, Skyways, Blue One, Air Atlantic, Cimber Air, DAT, Sterling, Norwegian....
I have no problem believing you've met one - or even several - arrogant, out-of-touch 22 year olds who come form NAC.... but by-god I've met a lot of arrogant self-absorbed a$$hole pilots from other schools as well. I've had them in the right seat, and I've had them in the left seat.
If you can judge 250 pilots trained over a 10 year period as "(full of) bull@#$%" and arrogant, then you're a wiser man than me.
As for the statement in italics above, it's equally as absurd as your own post.
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For you who wondered what kind of uniforms used at NAC they use dark blue nomex flight suits with no stripes at all. White shirt, dark blue trousers and tie during ground school. So, no "mister fancy" in the cockpit... :-)
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Uniforms..
Really quite a stupid topic, but let's close it then.
Students at Bardufoss wear Flight Suits, which as already mentioned, are made of Nomex; which is fire resistant.
Add to that a good pair of socks, a pair of boots, long underwear and a wool t-shirt accompanied with a NATO-style V sweather and a "bjørnefitte"; and you'll still be in serious trouble with an off-field landing in this part of the world. So the aircraft has to carry a survival pack onboard. But even then, you've still got the odds against you.
So I suppose one should stop flying all together up there. That would also apply to much of the Northern United States, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland or wherever else the weather isn't a steady 25 degrees with a McDonalds around every corner.
Bengt Engel; what do you recommend of flying apparel for this part of the world? Send an email to [email protected]. I'm sure he'll implement the changes based on your great insight if its for the better!
A flight suit is a great pice of clothing for just that: flying. (No belts, not easily ignitable, accesible and customized pockets, no worries of oil, hydraulic and fuel stains etc. etc.)
Students at Bardufoss wear Flight Suits, which as already mentioned, are made of Nomex; which is fire resistant.
Add to that a good pair of socks, a pair of boots, long underwear and a wool t-shirt accompanied with a NATO-style V sweather and a "bjørnefitte"; and you'll still be in serious trouble with an off-field landing in this part of the world. So the aircraft has to carry a survival pack onboard. But even then, you've still got the odds against you.
So I suppose one should stop flying all together up there. That would also apply to much of the Northern United States, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland or wherever else the weather isn't a steady 25 degrees with a McDonalds around every corner.
Bengt Engel; what do you recommend of flying apparel for this part of the world? Send an email to [email protected]. I'm sure he'll implement the changes based on your great insight if its for the better!
A flight suit is a great pice of clothing for just that: flying. (No belts, not easily ignitable, accesible and customized pockets, no worries of oil, hydraulic and fuel stains etc. etc.)
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Easy now, surfer dude... 
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I think that B.E. was actually posting a serious reply to me since I was having a laugh at the uniforms.
What sparked my remark was when I had a chat with this instructor I met. Not only did he consider himself to be God's gift to aviation (and mankind in general) but he also, being the "commander" of the C172, wore uniform and 4 stripes.
Since I actually did say that there are a few things more pathetic - so I guess being stranded on a Norwegian mountain at -30C in Bermuda shorts and t-shirt would be even more pathetic. When I think about it, that "bjørnefitte" you were talking about - should be on the ETOPS MEL...
Just vote for Miljöpartiet (Swedish Green party) in the next election and that will sort itself out...
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I think that B.E. was actually posting a serious reply to me since I was having a laugh at the uniforms.
What sparked my remark was when I had a chat with this instructor I met. Not only did he consider himself to be God's gift to aviation (and mankind in general) but he also, being the "commander" of the C172, wore uniform and 4 stripes.
Since I actually did say that there are a few things more pathetic - so I guess being stranded on a Norwegian mountain at -30C in Bermuda shorts and t-shirt would be even more pathetic. When I think about it, that "bjørnefitte" you were talking about - should be on the ETOPS MEL...
So I suppose one should stop flying all together up there.
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Re: Uniforms..
Originally Posted by Cloud surfer
Bengt Engel; what do you recommend of flying apparel for this part of the world? Send an email to [email protected]. I'm sure he'll implement the changes based on your great insight if its for the better!
As a matter of fact I was making a serious reply to Mr Skunk, but hey, not easy for you to know, surfing around the clouds and all...
but to close the subject, dont worry about me getting oil and hydraulics on me gear...I just dry-clean it on the cost of the company...and you know what, it even comes with a very nice pocket that can hold a pen!
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Hi guys.
Mr. Surfer was definately too trigger happy, and he apologizes. Slightly shamed, but all the wiser. It's been a good 10 years since he was a student in that flightsuit, but has a tendency to still feel rather protective about it.
Happy new year everyone!
Mr. Surfer was definately too trigger happy, and he apologizes. Slightly shamed, but all the wiser. It's been a good 10 years since he was a student in that flightsuit, but has a tendency to still feel rather protective about it.
Happy new year everyone!