Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Non-Airline Forums > Space Flight and Operations
Reload this Page >

Turkey Intercepts Syrian Airliner

Wikiposts
Search
Space Flight and Operations News and Issues Following Space Flight, Testing, Operations and Professional Development

Turkey Intercepts Syrian Airliner

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th Oct 2012, 19:10
  #1 (permalink)  

Eight Gun Fighter
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Western Approaches
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Turkey Intercepts Syrian Airliner

Turkish fighter planes have forced a Syrian passenger plane to land at Ankara's airport for investigation, Turkish state media report.

The plane, which was travelling from Moscow, was intercepted on intelligence that it was carrying "non-civilian cargo", Turkey's foreign minister said.

He added that Turkey was determined to stop any transfer of weapons to the Syrian government through its airspace.

BBC
Rollingthunder is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 19:50
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Exit stage right.
Posts: 290
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
But the Syrians are ok with Saudi and Qatari and other weapons to the SFA.....
racedo is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 19:55
  #3 (permalink)  
Psychophysiological entity
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Tweet Rob_Benham Famous author. Well, slightly famous.
Age: 84
Posts: 3,270
Received 33 Likes on 16 Posts
Just read this on the Beeb site. I think the actions are morally justified, but Syria is one thing, though prodding at a tiger that's sleeping with one eye wide open, is quite another. The implications are very, very far reaching.
Loose rivets is online now  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 20:17
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North of England
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
https://www.facebook.com/flightradar...22625571132874

Turkey has forced a Syrian passenger plane en route from Moscow to land in Ankara. Turkey says the passenger aircraft is suspected of carrying heavy weapons to Damascus.

You can view the flight on FR24 playback. It looks like the aircraft turned the transponder off near the Turkish coast, on contact with Turkish F16 jets.

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!
Turkey Intercepts Syrian Passenger Airplane - WSJ.com

Last edited by 22 Degree Halo; 10th Oct 2012 at 20:17.
22 Degree Halo is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 20:18
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ***
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is unbelievable.
What do the Turks think they're doing. Intercepting a civil aircraft of another country not at war with them. This is terrorism, or whatelse would you call a hijack like this?
Admiral346 is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 20:22
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: FUBAR
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ercan control finally has its moment of glory. . . . . .
captplaystation is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 20:35
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: England
Age: 65
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Whilst not officially at war with Syria, there is an ongoing situation and relations between the two aren't exactly cordial.

Turkey doesn't stand for any nonsense and if the Syrian plane was carrying weapons, then fair play to Turkey, it's preventative interdiction.
If your countrymen were shelled and shot at by another country, would you stand idle knowing that weapons were being flown in?
Momoe is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 20:50
  #8 (permalink)  

"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: England
Age: 77
Posts: 4,141
Received 223 Likes on 65 Posts
My understanding is that, if it's carrying weaponry, it's effectively a military aircraft and requires diplomatic clearance. Otherwise it's gun-running. Either way, Turkey seems to be within their rights.
Herod is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 21:10
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bollington, Cheshire
Age: 72
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BBC Radio 4 10 pm News reports the aircraft has been released
119.4 is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 21:13
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Over Mache Grande?
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Admiral346...

...you need to look up the definition of terrorism before you mis-quote it.

Turkey are well within their rights. Lets see what was on board before we go further.
dwshimoda is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 21:55
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North of England
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seems missile parts have been found..[Turkish Media]
22 Degree Halo is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 21:56
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If an aircraft is operating outside the terms of its diplomatic clearance then the country issuing the clearance has the right to take action. Seen it happen.
Basil is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 23:01
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: outside the box
Age: 40
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just speculating... If the syrian a/c had some ''special'' cargo they would most certainly have been advised (by the Syrian officials) to avoid overflying Turkey and use the diplomatic imbalance between the two countries as an excuse!
It's more likely that Turkey is just bullying Syria to make the situation more unstable... If they can't find a reason to invade why not make something up?? We 've seen it happening before haven't we??
Jetpipe. is offline  
Old 10th Oct 2012, 23:16
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Munich, Bavaria
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy

The job of the Turks is to provoke Syria to do some move, that the NATO finally can invade the country and create a second Iraq-scenario. (Kill the dictator and leave the country in chaos)
Too bad, nobody dared to intercept the US-chartered civilian flights, flying weaponry for attack on Irak in 2002/2003.

[CTRL] BOMB-LADEN U.S. CARGO PLANE BARELY AVERTS MAJOR DISASTER

Why is it, that the academi backed terrorists in Syria are called civilists and the yemeni protesters from 2011 are now called al-quaeda terrorists?

26 protesters killed, hundreds injured in Yemen - CNN

Yemen: Al Qaeda affiliate behind blast that killed 101 soldiers - CNN.com

In both countrys you have some kind of civil-war and our "peace-loving" home-countries are involved in some way.

Last edited by Midnight Blue; 10th Oct 2012 at 23:18.
Midnight Blue is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 03:30
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just out of curiosity, but why would this be any different from the Russian ship, suspected of carrying helicopters, that recently got turned away from sailing to Syria by the British navy?
flyburg is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 05:29
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: BHX LXR ASW
Posts: 2,271
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
What do the Turks think they're doing. Intercepting a civil aircraft of another country not at war with them. This is terrorism, or whatelse would you call a hijack like this?
Because the weapons that the 320 was carrying could in theory be used against Turkey. If someone was to lob a bomb into your back garden you wouldn't take too kindly to it.

Just out of curiosity, but why would this be any different from the Russian ship, suspected of carrying helicopters, that recently got turned away from sailing to Syria by the British navy?
Apart from China and Russia, the rest of the world don't want to re-arm the Assad regime and prolong the civil war.
crewmeal is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 06:20
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Germany
Age: 67
Posts: 1,777
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apart from China and Russia, the rest of the world don't want to re-arm the Assad regime and prolong the civil war.
That's one sided opinion
Apart China and Russia (and you forget Iran and some other) the rest of the world (or at least parts of) want arm the rebels for prolong the civil war

Last edited by jcjeant; 11th Oct 2012 at 06:22.
jcjeant is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 06:50
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Here
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is nonsense, the biggest threat is the Free Syrian Army, read these and it all becomes much clearer.

http://landdestroyer.********.hk/201...ttempt-to.html

http://landdestroyer.********.hk/201...-vs-syria.html

http://landdestroyer.********.hk/201...slaughter.html

» NATO Designed Mortar Used in Attack Blamed on Syria Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
Threethirty is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 08:00
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Wythenshawe
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Quelle Surprise!

Remember how the peace-loving Turks wailed when the Israelis boarded their weapons ship bound for Hamas/Gaza? The peace-loving Turks are amongst the biggest mass killers in history, and they are looking for a war right now. The Syrians are no better, so let them duke it out.

The real danger is that the West and/or Russia get involved. Now that would be a serious business.
Mr.Bloggs is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2012, 08:08
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ***
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Quote from RT online:

“Four people onboard have been beaten up, two crew and two passengers, as they tried to force them to sign documents,” Sherin Azis, a hostess on the plane, told RT by phone. “We don’t know what these papers are about. We are scared for the fate of the captain. He was taken away and threatened with arrest if he does not sign an emergency landing paper.”
Fatima al-Saman, a passenger and a mother of three, also told RT that the captain was being forced to sign a release stating that military planes were not involved and the plane just made an emergency landing.
“If we do not agree to these terms, they will take the captain kind of hostage,” al-Saman said. “They are threatening us. The captain has now returned and said that ‘either I sign the document that I made an emergency landing or they are taking me hostage.’”
The plane has been surrounded by people in masks who have detained all the cargo and were looking through what looked like boxes with documents, passengers said. The Turkish authorities were interested in some spare parts, which a businessman bought in Russia and was transporting to Syria, al-Saman said. She said that as far as she could tell, they were clearly not weapons.
“They started unloading some packages. They opened them, took pictures. There were many people. We all saw what was in there. There were no weapons. You could see it with an untrained eye!” she said. “They just had some spare parts and papers – objects, but there were no rockets. It is all a lie.”
Nic
Admiral346 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.