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Squadgy 15th August 2002 19:00

'Mallard' Callsign
 
Hi, Does anyone know which unit uses 'Mallard' for a callsign? I'm assuming it's mil.

Cheers

Squadgy:confused:

fobotcso 15th August 2002 22:04

If they want you to know they'll tell you themselves, so why don't you ask them next time you hear them?:p

WhichWay? 15th August 2002 22:18

Why, what have they done?

WW

Gainesy 16th August 2002 07:18

Quacking formation flyers though.

rivetjoint 16th August 2002 07:52

There are a million places on the web you can find that out, here isn't one though :)

Navy_Adversary 16th August 2002 09:48

Squadgy, May be LTW.
If you have a tenner to spare
www.photav.demon.co.uk

FOMere2eternity 16th August 2002 11:32

...agree with WhichWay, what have they done ?

Apart from convenience, callsigns are used to disguise military movements (ie. Sqn ops) from hostile ears....although a few spotters have noted them and publish.

'Mallard' has been used for ages, so it shouldn't be hard for you to find out.

motionlotion 16th August 2002 12:40

FO


You just couldn't give a duck could you? but it shouldn't be too much of a feet on the web ................................... God that's awful!

canberra 16th August 2002 17:24

mallard
 
how can a callsign be used to disguise military movements? you call up and say mallard x number of aircraft type and bingo youve blown it. and you put it on a flight plan so why the need for acting as if its the holy grail?

PPRuNe Radar 16th August 2002 19:06

More than a little out of date ........ but probably still used by Menwith Hill ;)

http://mir.irisz.hu/cucc/misc/Csign.txt

fobotcso 16th August 2002 19:36

Spoilsport! ;)

Some notable omissions, obvious even to someone out of the business as long as I have been.

WhichWay? 16th August 2002 20:49

So what does LTW mean in the reference for Mallard?

But what did they do!

WW

ORAC 16th August 2002 22:01

Lyneham Transport Wing.

MOD Glossary

FOMere2eternity 16th August 2002 23:43

Canberra:

Because, for example, 'Saxon' calling up and stating they're a bunch of tornadoes doesn't give away their Sqn and role - ok, so you probably know who 'mallard' are but that's the nature of their callsign - type specific, with a limited No of operators.

as for being the holy grail, it's not, but equally broadcasting it to all and sundry isn't a great idea....unless they're spotters !

teeteringhead 17th August 2002 07:43

Interesting to see that 617 are down as using "BlackDog", when they have been known to use the totally politacally incorrect dog's name................

Specaircrew 17th August 2002 15:16

Thats because Guy Gibsons dog was called 'Nygger', indeed I used to be O i/c Nyggers grave when I was a first tourist on the Sqn. It really pisses me off the the mamby pamby pc brigade have had the film 'The Dambusters' edited so that the dog is now called 'Boy' just in case historical fact should upset some delicate flower!!!!!!!!

PS I had to incorrectly spell it because even PPrune censors historical fact

Grimweasel 17th August 2002 17:14

So if we have Mallard how long until we have "White Hart" Formation? (for those in tha know!!)
Or even 'Oscars'!!.....

Squadgy 18th August 2002 07:19

Thanks guys and gals, don't worry they didn't do anything, just an unusual c/s that we don't usually get in this neck of the woods.

Cheers :p

Scud-U-Like 18th August 2002 08:09

Specaircrew

Even 60 years ago, the term was pejorative. Had Gibson named his dog c**t, would you expect that to be included in the film?

BEagle 18th August 2002 09:16

With reference to the 'Dambusters' movie, originally the correct name was used. Later crude attempts to eradicate the real name of the dog were very clumsy. First they tried to dub it over as 'Digger', then erasing the soundtrack whenever the name of Gibson's dog was mentioned. That was a bit obvious, so they just cut bits out. Hence when the codeword for the breach of the Moehne Dam is sent by Gibson's wireless operator and is received at Scampton, nowadays you just see an operator yelling "It's gone" - in a heavily censored cut from the original film.

It is a matter of historical fact that Guy Gibson's black labrador had a name. He was killed on the eve of the raid and his name was used as the codeword for the breach of the Moehne Dam. Does anyone really think that the name Gibson chose was a deliberate affront to anyone?

When Speccers and I were at Sunny Scampton, certainly there was an (artificial) grave outside the 617th's building dedicated to the memory of Gibson's dog. It wasn't, in fact, the real site of the grave, but a memorial. Well looked after by 617 (and regularly peed upon by 35 Sqn). I didn't check whether it was still there when I was at Scampton doing my CFS course - it was bad enough just to have to be flying little Learning Command aeroplanes from a base which used to echo to the thunder of our V-bombers 15 years earlier........

I hardly think that he would have chosen the name you suggest, S-u-L!


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