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"Seems to remove the element of surprise, doesn't it? "
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Reminds me of the invasion of the Falklands.
”Sir. The Mothers of the tortured and missing are protesting in the streets!” ”Humm we need a distraction quickly! Suggestions?” ”I know sir. We could invade the Falklands! That will unite the country behind us!” ”Brilliant idea! The British will not do anything except make a protest to the UN. It’s a win-win for us.” ”I agree. What could possibly go wrong? Nothing. Should I make it so Sir?” Same mindset here. |
Funny you should mention that, albatross. The US has announced that it is sending a strongly worded memo to the UN to get Iran off of the Commission on the Status of Women,
Mind you, they got voted on last year and took their seat for a 4 year stint in March. You can't make this stuff up. https://unwatch.org/iran-to-join-u-n...ts-commission/ |
Nothing like a “Strongly Worded Memo” to rock them back on their heels!
Must try that in a bar fight with a biker gang. I don’t imagine a good outcome. I worked in Iran. Like everywhere else in this world the average person just wanted a good life, the ability to raise their children with a good education in a peaceful world. The demented fanatics in charge did not share this outlook. I have seen the “makeup police” at work. Not a bunch to be admired, Just a gang of fanatical bullies given a bit of power to abuse the defenceless. Scum! “
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11324825)
Funny you should mention that, albatross. The US has announced that it is sending a strongly worded memo to the UN to get Iran off of the Commission on the Status of Women,
https://twitter.com/VP/status/158784...-KiYM-g4awoyAg Mind you, they got voted on last year and took their seat for a 4 year stint in March. You can't make this stuff up. https://unwatch.org/iran-to-join-u-n...ts-commission/ |
If you kill one woman and it makes her a martyr and brings your country onto the streets. Imagine what this will do.
Iran's parliament voted by a majority (227 out of 290) to execute all protesters. The authorities emphasize that the rebels need to be taught the most "hard lesson". |
I am wondering if that was something lost in translation. Is that "punish" all protestors or "execute" all protesters?
A different source says something different than your emotionally loaded tweet-source, Nutty. May I suggest that you dig a little deeper before you post stuff like that? 227 members of the 290-seat Parliament of Iran have called on the Judiciary to issue death sentences for people arrested during the ongoing anti-government protests. The Judiciary may decline to rule as they have been encouraged to. Or they may take it as a mandate. We'll see. |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11327320)
I am wondering if that was something lost in translation. Is that "punish" all protestors or "execute" all protesters?
A different source says something different than your emotionally loaded tweet-source, Nutty. May I suggest that you dig a little deeper before you post stuff like that? That's still harsh and nasty, but it's not quite 'execute them all' as presented in your post. The Judiciary may decline to rule as they have been encouraged to. Or they may take it as a mandate. We'll see. |
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202211068924
Iranian Lawmakers Urge Judiciary To Sentence Protesters To DeathSunday, 11/06/20223 minutesAuthor: Iran International Newsroom Iran ProtestsHuman RightsA group of 227 parliament members in Iran has called on the Judiciary to issue death sentences for people arrested during the ongoing antigovernment protests. The parliament, elected in a non-competitive election in February 2020, is packed with hardliners and Revolutionary Guard officers. In a statement that was read out in the parliament on Sunday, the lawmakers called the protesters ‘mohareb’ -- which literally means warrior in Arabic, but in Islamic law or sharia it means ‘enemy of God’ that carries the death penalty. They also compared the protesters to members of ISIS, who "attack people's lives and property..." The Iranian regime has so far charged several people with ‘moharebeh,’ “corruption on earth,” “assembly and collusion against national security” and “confrontation with the Islamic Republic” for participating in the protests. Describing the current wave of popular protests as “riots,” the MPs claimed that “the US and other enemies” are inciting violence, organizing rallies, and providing financial support and weaponry to commandeer the protests. They also said “thugs and mobs” have killed tens of people and disrupted the security of the country. Echoing the Islamic Republic’s propaganda line, the lawmakers said that “the enemies have been defeated in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon and Yemen” therefore they organized the “riots” as a reaction to “victories of the Islamic Republic.” Without mentioning any individuals or groups, the hardline lawmakers also asked the judiciary to take legal actions against “the politicians who incited the rioters.” Mohammd Bagher Ghalibaf, parliament speaker in an undated phot with IRGC's Qasem Soleimani Earlier in the parliament session, Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf (Qalibaf) said that main elements of Mossad, CIA and their allied groups are behind the unrest in the country. Late in October, hardliner MP Mohammad Esmail Kowsari, also a high ranking IRGC officer, implicitly threatened that the government will respond differently to the ongoing protests from now on. While protests continue across Iran, the Islamic Republic’s Judiciary has also announced that it has indicted over 1,000 people who were arrested during the demonstrations. Authorities have been claiming that “separatists” and “instigators” are behind the efforts to overthrow the government and break Iran into areas controlled by ethnic groups, a claim routinely denied by Iranians on streets and social media. The claim that protests are instigated by foreign enemies was first made by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and loyal officials now repeat his conspiracy theory. President Ebrahim Raisi on October 25 accused “enemies of the Islamic Republic” of fomenting the protests, echoing what Khamenei said a day earlier. Parliament Speaker Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf in turn vowed that parliament would take action to change the ways of the morality police in a bid to calm the protesters. “Death sentences against people for exercising their right to freedom of expression, after the killings of peaceful protesters, abductions and gunning down children, and other atrocities, indicate a government that is out of control and willing to quash protests at any cost,” said a statement by Center for Human Rights in Iran. The Norway-based human rights organization also expressed concern regarding the fate of the detained protesters saying, “dozens of them have been charged with the security-related charges of ‘moharebeh’ and ‘corruption on earth’ which carry the death penalty.” The Islamic Republic’s history and current evidence indicate that they intend to use the death penalty as a tool of political repression to intimidate their opposition. Earlier in November, 40 Iranian lawyers issued a statement saying most people no longer want the Islamic Republic and called on their peers to speak up and defend the people. Iran has been gripped by protests since the death in custody of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old Iranian of Kurdish origin who had been arrested on September 13 for allegedly breaching the Islamic dress code and died three days later from severe head trauma. Protests spread fueled by public outrage over a crackdown that led to the deaths of other young men, women, and children. Now in their seventh week, the protests show no sign of ending. |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11327320)
That's still harsh and nasty, but it's not quite 'execute them all' as presented in your post.
The Judiciary may decline to rule as they have been encouraged to. Or they may take it as a mandate. We'll see. If you kill one woman and it makes her a martyr and brings your country onto the streets. Imagine what this will do. |
Thanks for the amplification, Nutloose.
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We aim to please.
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
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@LW-50. Perhaps you have a point, but what is the difference in intent or outcome, perhaps just the means?
Originally Posted by iranintel.com article
Late in October, hardliner MP Mohammad Esmail Kowsari, also a high ranking IRGC officer, implicitly threatened that the government will respond differently to the ongoing protests from now on. While protests continue across Iran, the Islamic Republic’s Judiciary has also announced that it has indicted over 1,000 people who were arrested during the demonstrations.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11327354)
Where did I say that? I think the poster in the thread has just worded it poorly
You'd have been better off to post that article (by the way, thank you for that one, :ok: it's much better presented and paints a clearer picture) than that badly worded tweet. |
OK … peace restored … moving on ….
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Iran is proud of its new hypersonic missile.
Iran claims it has developed a hypersonic missile (msn.com) Tehran — Iran has developed a hypersonic missile capable of penetrating all defense systems, General Amirali Hajizadeh, the commander of its Revolutionary Guards aerospace unit, claimed on Thursday. Hypersonic missiles, like traditional ballistic missiles which can deliver nuclear weapons, can fly more than five times the speed of sound. "This hypersonic ballistic missile was developed to counter air defense shields," Hajizadeh said, quoted by Iran's Fars news agency. "It will be able to breach all the systems of anti-missile defense." The general said he believed it would be decades before a system capable of intercepting the missile was developed, declaring it "a great generational leap in the field of missiles." I wonder how good the guidance systems are. |
As a follow up to "how many people does the legislature want to see executed for protesting" it would appear to be "about 15,000." (If all who have been arrested were to be so treated).
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Do Iranians want the Shah back? Don't think so. With that said, under the Shah things were a bit less restrictive.
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I was on a flight from Friedrichshafen to Frankfurt during a World Cup footie time. The other passengers in biz class were the Iranian national team and their minder. Quiet and polite to a man.
Waiting to greet them at FRA were a number of Iranian supporters - including some young women wearing the Iranian flag with coloured bands on their faces reflecting their national pride. NO-ONE wearing any hideous black bag or hood. If they'd appeared like that in Iran, they'd have been slung in jail. What an appalling state of affairs. |
The revolutionaries report that they eliminated the Iranian colonel of the IRGC, Reza Elmasi. He coordinated the crackdown on protests.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
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The revolutionaries report that they eliminated the Iranian colonel of the IRGC, Reza Elmasi. He coordinated the crackdown on protests.
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Resumption of low-level hostilities?
Article in The Times today. Israeli-owned oil tanker hit by drone strike in the Arabian Sea An Israeli-owned oil tanker has been hit by an explosive drone in the Arabian Sea, signalling that a lull in hostilities between rival Middle East powers may be over. The strike on the Pacific Zircon caused only minor damage according to its owner, the Singapore-based Eastern Pacific Shipping. |
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