This is what the wife of one of the crew posted on The Aviation Herald.

ch5120.

No, it hasn't been shown... not once.

I watched all 3 morning national network shows both Monday morning and Tuesday morning, and 2 of the 3 national evening news shows the same evenings.

No mention of the accident at all, much less a showing of the video.

At first hand, does look like the load or trim position could be the main problem.
Amazed that the sound does not seem to include comments until well after the accident.

RIP

Well, it's all over the Mailonline now, seem to think it was a load shift aft causing a stall. Condolences to the families.

Would a load shift cause it to roll forward to a nose down position?

A load shift on take off, always can bring on a tail down situation, which in turn can mean that one gets into a non recoverable attitude.

Shame that the crew were helpless.

So sad so very sad.

Regards

Col

When Mr Benouli throws in the towel, Mr Newton takes over.

What a horrific accident. I was just willing that bl00dy plane to fly.

Deepest condolences to the family.

Im in a layover in Auckland and they played a clip from the video on the news here just now, whilst saying it 'could be a fake video'. Looks a real enough stall/wingdrop to me and Im sure the clip is being aired around the world if its being shown here.

TO POST THE VIDEO OR NOT TO POST
 

I wish to support LoneWolf_50. Those whom choose to criticize his posting in regard to this horrific crash seem to ignore the fact that the footage has gone viral on the internet and on TV News worldwide.

Well the voice on the tape sounds British, and therefore automatically not predisposed to over exclamation. Add to that the fact he is presumably also current or ex military. Even the eventual "oh f**k" seems more like exasperation that he can't get hold of anyone, rather than a reaction to the crash itself.

A couple of the posters over on the R & N forum (and the thread there regarding this crash) know a bit about cameras, mics, and audio clipping of dashboard cameras. Their explanation helps clarify why you hear the impact but not a lot else on the video clip.

Old Fella: thank you sir. :ok:

Just to be clear, I have not posted any video, but I am grateful to those who posted the links here.

One might ask: how did that video get out of that camera and onto the web so quickly? :confused: I wonder if anyone is in trouble over that.

LiveLeak is well named.

It's certainly on the TV news in Oz.

By the way... I finally saw the first mention of the crash on network news.

The Today show (NBC morning news) announced that the names of those killed have been released, and showed the video once without comment other than an initial warning of disturbing content. They then went on to the next story without giving the names, just that 6 of the deceased were from Michigan and the 7th was from Kentucky.

For full disclosure, this link includes the names: Video: Boeing 747 crash at Bagram Airfield military base kills 7

It was pretty horrific to watch and I fear I will think of it next time I take off, particularly if it's in a 747. Silly, I know, but human nature to do so.

I don't see any value in its being posted here as it's out in the public domain, on TV, and so on. By the same criterion, I don't see any harm in posting it here either, nobody has to watch it.

I would not have wanted to be the first person to post it.

Very tragic and one can only hope that, as with so many accidents, the results of the enquiry will help to ensure that, whatever the cause, it doesn't happen again.

Although 'load shift' is strongly rumoured to be the cause of this accident, there is always the possibility of incorrectly stated load weights.

Years ago, a C-130 containing military vehicles nearly sat on its bum when the ramp was raised, because one of said vehicles had been stuffed full of contraband by some squaddie and was far heavier than the manifest stated. As luck would have it, the vehicle was right at the back of the cargo area...

Mass and balance and insecure loads must be the ever-present nightmare of the cargo flier. One of the more graphic, fortunately survivable, descriptions can be found in Ernest Gann's Fate is the Hunter when several tons of steel radio towers became loose during his take-off in a C-47, sliding to the back of the aircraft....

I just wonder if something similar to the Hastings El Adem 1961 crash happened ... I was serving at Nicosia at the time and story was that it was a runaway captain's seat.
Never heard the full version.

This must be the understatement of the year/decade! Armchair PPruner at his best!

Why would you doubt the cargo shift theory? Yet another PPrune "armchair after the event" speculator!

You'll note the handy use of the question mark at the end which denotes a question, not a statement! Exclamation marks indicate statements, but well done for turning the thread into a witch hunt! :rolleyes: