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Seldomfitforpurpose 24th January 2012 15:56


Originally Posted by Ken Scott (Post 6977739)
Seldom: Stereotyping a person based on their upbringing & background is just the sort of nonsense that E&D training is supposed to eliminate. I will be checking your currency & recommending remedial training as a matter of urgency.

Best be quick about it Sir :p

Ken Scott 24th January 2012 16:18


Best be quick about it Sir
I'm sure you won't be able to clear until you're fully current!! We wouldn't want retired personnel holding prejudices...

cazatou 24th January 2012 18:43

Nice one MGD - but are you sure it was only 90%?

Seems a bit low to me!!

Echo 5 24th January 2012 20:37

SFFP,


Best be quick about it Sir
Counting the days are we mate. :)

Seldomfitforpurpose 24th January 2012 21:17


Originally Posted by Echo 5 (Post 6978647)
SFFP,



Counting the days are we mate. :)

Certainly am :ok:

Airborne Aircrew 24th January 2012 21:26


Certainly am
Anything we can do to help you on your way?:E

Seldomfitforpurpose 25th January 2012 11:12


Originally Posted by Airborne Aircrew (Post 6978738)
Anything we can do to help you on your way?:E

Sadly it's a purely Military procedure so I am not sure than many of those regularly posting in here nowadays can help :p:p:p

cazatou 25th January 2012 11:37

I don't think I will remove him from my Ignore List yet - just to be on the safe side!!

Seldomfitforpurpose 25th January 2012 12:14


Originally Posted by cazatou (Post 6979697)
I don't think I will remove him from my Ignore List yet - just to be on the safe side!!

If someone would be so kind as to let caz know but as of early July he wont have need of that ignore function :p:p:p:p:p

cazatou 25th January 2012 12:37

Obviously a wise precaution on my part!!!

cazatou 25th January 2012 13:01

Another one - they all come out at the same time!!:rolleyes:

Burnt Fishtrousers 25th January 2012 14:04

I think the Scots need to consider for the past 13 years the UK was governed by the labour party predominantly comprising of the Scots in the cabinate and senior positions,who left a huge deficit for the nation to service...Oh, and the UK tax payer had to bail out one of their banks sanctioned by a Scotsman, who was an unsuccessful leader and Prime Minister....and of course the previous one, of Scottish origin was a smiling buffoon. (Although in the interests of balance Cameron is giving them both a run for their money)

Not a good omen for independence is it?

I personally hope the Scots will remain as part of the union and not become a satellite refugee who will presumably go to Europe with the begging bowl out, only to be rejected by a collapsing European Union..And on a day to day basis just what beef do the Scots have against being part of the union anyway? The Scottish people arent stupid, they can see what Salmond is, a complete one trick pony windbag that makes John Prescott look erudite.

Cameron could be extremely mischevious by stopping the Barnet contribution overnight as a taster to the Scottish people as to what a Salmond regeme would actually be like without subsidy from other parts of the U.K. ...

A machine is only as good as the sum of its parts and I hope the Scots stay part of the union for all our interests.

However if they do go their own way then they have to comitt completely with borders closed, passports required (duel citizenship for Scots living south of the border) their own armed forces, their own currency.
We enjoy a rich tapestry of culture in the UK and we could do with retaining it.

I personally have enjoyed all my visits to Scotland business or otherwise and being half Scot myself I enjoy conversing with people who when they growl "washa teme" you dont know whether they are enquiring as to your footballing loyalties or what time of day it is....Its Newcastle United and 14.55 Alex

MagnusP 25th January 2012 14:08

While you're at it, any thoughts on renaming "Scotland Yard"?

MagnusP 25th January 2012 14:16

Burnt Fishtrousers: rest assured that English resentment over Barnett and the West Lothian Question is balanced nicely by Scottish concerns about English expenditure (in particular on items subject to the WLQ) coming out of the overall UK expenditure budget. If England had a devolved chamber and a block grant like Scotland's, the WLQ would go away and we could all get on with running our own affairs. Keep a smaller UK chamber in Wastemonster to deal with defence, immigration &c, and to agree the block grants to the devolved administrations.

cazatou 25th January 2012 15:48

A devolved Scotland would need its own unique Passport coupled with its own Consuls and Embassy Staff in each Country of the World. It therefore follows that it would need its own Ambassadors as well as its own Foreign Office.

dagama 25th January 2012 16:36

How much will a pint of Ten bob cost after indy!

denachtenmai 26th January 2012 09:12

Radio 2, yesterday, spent quite a bit of time talking to Jocks, about what would happen if they voted for independence.
Now there was someone, also a blogger but can't remember his name, who is quite happy because he spends one week working in Scotland and one week working in London, he was asked about the need for passport controls, if they go ahead with the split.
He said nothing would change because of the Schengen agreement, my question is, what happens to him if (when)we pull out of Europe?
Regards, Den.

Pontius Navigator 26th January 2012 09:23


Originally Posted by denachtenmai (Post 6981490)
He said nothing would change because of the Schengen agreement, .

We are not a signatory.

I see the plan is 2014 - Vote if yes work out details and independence in 2016.

What happens, as predicted, if the costs such as diplomatic missions, defence, pensions etc etc cannot be resolved or become impossibly expensive?

What about all the Government Agencies setup in Scotland? Will they relocate back to England? JPA? MOD Directory Services? Tax Offices?

Could be some massive job gains in Carlisle, Berwick and Newcastle :)

denachtenmai 26th January 2012 11:12

Thanks for that PN, I'd forgotten that we hadn't opted in to Schengen.
Regards, Den.

Sempre 206 26th January 2012 15:01

Just a thought, but what if a majority of those currently serving in the Scottish Regiments do not want to become part of Alex's 'New Model Army'?


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