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Rossian 21st April 2014 15:34

The link above....
 
.....I found absolutely fascinating!

The thing that struck me most was the emptiness of the streets in town and the roads around. I remember it as being rather a bustling place.

Was it on this thread that there was a photo of a Mk2 Shack batting along the beach very low towards the airport, with a line of young girls waving?

I'd have been intrigued to hear Dave's wife's impressions of returning after such a long time away.

Definitely the all time best det - EVER!

The Ancient Mariner

Blanket Stacker 21st April 2014 18:46

203 moved to Luqa from Ballykelly. 204 went to Honington when BK shut.

Shack37 21st April 2014 22:52


Was it on this thread that there was a photo of a Mk2 Shack batting along the beach very low towards the airport, with a line of young girls waving?
Rossian, the link in Post #37 has that picture or another version of same. I believe it's a 38Sqn aircraft. If you look closely you'll see that 1 and 2 engines are shut down and feathered.

GIGFY 22nd April 2014 01:26

SHACK37 - Dustbin
 
I remember that! The pilot report in the 700, "unusual thump felt at aft end":}

Shack37 22nd April 2014 09:45


I remember that! The pilot report in the 700, "unusual thump felt at aft
end":}
Closely followed by another one from the Station Commander in private.

fly7boy 22nd April 2014 20:35

Doc Jospin...
 
Did three of the wonderful/awful Majunga Detatchments out of Ballykelly and Doc Jospin, an enthusiastic whisky drinker, saved my life when I picked up an awful 'fever' in Mombassa. I was 'in n out of it' for about three days and Doc was encouraged to the apartment Dessai by offers of whisky if he pumped me full on penicillin...:)

GIGFY 22nd April 2014 22:40

SHACK37
 
BOOM BOOM:ok:

Exascot 23rd April 2014 10:31

Before my time but I did take a highly polished gleaming Queen's flight Andover into Majunga in the mid 80s. One of the locals took one look at us and said 'ah Royal Air Force' then pointed at our aircraft and said ........ 'Shackleton' :eek:

Shack37 23rd April 2014 14:15


Before my time but I did take a highly polished gleaming Queen's flight
Andover into Majunga in the mid 80s. One of the locals took one look at us and said 'ah Royal Air Force' then pointed at our aircraft and said ........
'Shackleton' :eek:
Can understand your emotion, they often brought tears to my eyes:{

Rossian 23rd April 2014 18:28

Back in the day....
 
......they used to point at the Air France 707 lurching into the sky on its way to Tananarive and cry "Angelais angelais" (Malagasay French was pronounced rather differently).

One visitor from the capital was delighted to find the source of a new phrase common in the natives of the city, "Qu'est que F*^&£ing c'est?", delivered at max volume. The source was one of the groundcrew out at the airfield site.

The Ancient Mariner

oxenos 23rd April 2014 18:41

Nicole, the barmaid in the Hotel de France (who, it was said, wore hairy shreddies) had been taught to play liar dice by successive detachments. On one occasion someone tried to pass her a four of a kind, having accepted a pair. Her response was

"Qu'est que F*^&£ing c'est ? "

It took over from " you lie like a cheap Changi watch" as an expression of disbelief

GIGFY 25th April 2014 11:28

Nicole, the barmaid, was not always the barmaid at the Hotel de France. In the early stages of the detachment, Nicole was seen mostly at the Village Touristique. In '66 this busty girl had a taste for medium sized, blonde haired gentlefolk. She set her eyes on one Dickie Leston who was thankful that she soon discovered officers were the best meal of the day. Once she was observed taking a picnic with a maintenance officer - folding table, table cloth, silverware and wine. There were other "ladies" but Nicole was something else and made a great difference to the diversity for the lads.

I'm sure there are more interesting stories involving Nicole and her friends.

Rossian 25th April 2014 15:24

Ah, Nicole....
 
.....when we ran out of or had not been given current authentication tables a bit of lateral thinking was called for.
The ground station call was, in a deep gravelly voice, "and the next object is?"**
To which there was only one reply "Nicole's knockers"

The Ancient Mariner

** it came from a radio panel game whose name escapes. It was a bloody long time ago. And yes, they were rather splendid.

I have been informed whilst in the pub this evening that the programme was "Twenty Questions"

GIGFY 25th April 2014 22:18

"and the next object is"
 
Struthe, Rossian, you're going back not few years but eons. The program was "Twenty Questions" chaired by Norman Hackforth and it ran from 1947 to 1967.

Thank God for Google:ok:

oxenos 26th April 2014 09:31

"Nicole's knockers"

No wonder you wern't concentrating on the dice.

37MonsieurDavid 11th December 2014 13:35

That was not Dave McCandless
 
Hi, Shack37, that person who married the daughter of the owner was a Flt Lt Berg, the Detachment Adjutant and much later than 1966 when J/T Dave McCandless who got married on 1 Oct 1966 to the daughter of one of the French ladies who worked in the 'Bureau de Defense' in Majunga (to whom all returns were sent by the detachment). Dave from 37 Sqn Khormaksar was one of the first on 3 Shacks to land on Malgash soil on 19 Mar 1966; he got engaged in Jul 66, was refused permission to marry - Gen App in those days - and was hurriedly shipped back to Aden to 'cool off' by his Sqn Cdr - a Sqn Ldr Blunden. His attempts to return to Majunga, via indulgence, were refused by HQ staff to stop him getting married and when all else failed he turned to his Flt Cdr - a 37 Sqn pilot of the old school - Flt Lt Nicholls - who was standing in for S/L Blunden (on leave) - who set up a training flight/crew rotation (or the like) to Majunga via 37 Sqn Shack so the poor chap could get to his wedding. Dave went there on duty because, since his forced return to Aden in July, 38 Sqn from Malta had taken over but were using the tools and kit left behind on Khormaksar Inventories, so Dave's official duty/purpose in Majunga was to do an official comprehensive Inventory Check of 37 Sqn Inventories. As he stepped off the 37 Shack, the 38 Sqn EngO - a FO Rowley - with a smile on his face, handed Dave an envelope saying "Inventory Check completed.... now go get married for goodness sake before anyone finds out!!". Dave had 2 days to get married - the Det Cdr Wg Cdr Burgh and his wife stood in for Dave's parents and the whole 38 Sqn detachment were invited to the champagne reception in 'Le Grand Hotel'; however, after only a 2 day honeymoon was ordered back bt HQ staff via Argosy to Khormaksar. There the HQ Staff, not willing to be out-manoeuvred by a pilot, refused to recognise Dave as a locally married airman and thereby refused to place him on the list for an AMQ. This meant his wife had to remain in Majunga for a year (probably a good thing considering the deterioration in the security for families in Aden culminating in Operation CallFam in June 67) till Aden collapsed and Dave escorted/supported the 4x 37 Sqn Shack withdrawal back to Shawbury via many points north, in Aug 67. Dave and Christiane are still married today and returned to Majunga a few years ago to sadly witness the dilapidated state of Majunga town and the lovely 'Village' beach after 2 typhoons had devastated it. The 'L'Hotel De France' and the Soucoupe Volante were in ruins too and, contrary to popular opinion Dave never went to Madame Chabeaus (not sure of the spelling). Hope you enjoy this update.

GIGFY 2nd May 2015 02:02

Dave McCandless's Link:

Check out this link:

Return to Majunga 2008

brakedwell 2nd May 2015 10:45

Post Detachment Majunga
 
I night stopped in Majunga 3 times when on 99 sqn Britannias. It was not a popular trip (Bahrain - Majunga - Bahrain with a refuelling stop in the Seychelles northbound), so none of the wheels/country club experienced the joys of the Hotel de France's bouillabaisse or a cultural evening at Madam's. Fast forward to 1977 - I was in Nairobi for a week shuttling between Lusaka/Ndola and Nairobi with an IAS DC8 when our last Britannia arrived from Gatwick on it's way to Majunga with an Agip miniature submarine and support team (Italian) on board to inspect an off-shore oil rig which had been damaged in a cyclone. The F/E had been Engineer Leader on 99 sqn while I was there, so had never been to Majunga. The Britannia left Nairobi the next morning, scheduled to return in 36 hours. They turned up four days later looking like a gang of unwashed pirates! Apparently there had been an attempted coup shortly before they landed in Majunga. They were arrested and thrown into the airport jail under suspicion of being part of the take-over, mainly due to the submarine and the divers! They were incarcerated for three nights, unable to wash or shave, with very little food or water and no beds. Our embassy in Antananarivo eventually managed to get them released on the condition they left the country immediately. When I met them in the bar of the Pan Afrique Hotel shortly after they checked in they were not a pretty sight, downing Tusker as if it was going out of fashion!

Shack37 3rd May 2015 20:10


That was not Dave McCandless


37monsieurDavid. Thanks for the update and correction. Sorry for not replying earlier but only read your post when the thread was revived here.
I visit Dave´s 37Aden site fairly often to se if owt new up.
Are you in fact THAT Dave monsieur?

I also have reason to thank that same Flt. Lt. Nick Nicholls. He was captain of our Shackair flight Maj to K´sar and got us safely to Nairobi after a Griffon got a bit warm.

Rossian 3rd May 2015 22:00

monsieurDavid.....
 
.....or is he one who used to fly Javelins and then came to Shacks and then went to Majunga as a native speaking "fixer"? Only because I'm curious.

Oh and he flew CF100s in the RCAF before all of that.

The Ancient Mariner

Jackabonehome 17th January 2016 11:20

Last Shack to leave
 
I was on the last Shack detachment from 204 Squadton and we returned to the UK via Uganda, Cameroons, Mauritania and Gib. Hot days and steamy nights at the Maison du Mayor with so much laughter it hurt.

shck1 29th January 2017 15:44

I was there with 42 Sqdn in early '67 for 6 weeks so missed the Torrey Canyon mess - whoopee. I had just arrived back on 42 after a Nav Fitters course and was asked if I had a passport - why ? because you are going to Majunga - Uh - quick check in St Mawgan library- yes - us electronics fitters can read. Stayed in the Village Touristique and became fed up with "Guantanamera" being played almost every 10 minutes. Got used to 3 Horses, Mutzig and Oranjeboom beers. Came back to SN via Shack Air, had a nose red going into Wheelus so stuck there for a few days then we had to fly to Malta with the wheels down and have new leg fitted there !!! did wonders for the fuel consumption. I still have my 3 Horses tie. Touristique has a web site.

Steve Bond 18th February 2017 07:27

Hello Shck1,

I would like to talk to you - and indeed anyone else here - about your time there for my forthcoming book 'Shackleton Boys'. Please get in touch.

Regards

Steve Bond

JW411 18th February 2017 15:28

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My association with Majunga was as an Argosy captain on 105 Squadron in Khormaksar. We had a couple of resupply flights per month from Aden to Majunga via Nairobi. I recall that one of the most important pieces of cargo was Bacardi for Madam on the inbound flight and Pastisse for the Maitre D in the New Avenue Hotel in Nairobi on the outbound.

I am no Shackleton expert but here is a photograph of Mk.3 XF730 which I took at Majunga in 1967.

JW411 18th February 2017 15:36

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And here are a couple of Mk.2s at Majunga

JW411 18th February 2017 15:54

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And finally for today, here is Air Madagascar's finest; DC-4 5R-MAC about to depart to Moroni in the Comores. Three Mk.2s and the Argosy can be seen in the background.

Kitty Hawk 1 19th February 2017 07:23

I took a gleaming Queen's Flight Andover into there in the 80s. A local ground crew chap took one look and said, 'Ah Royal Air Force; Shackleton'.

Union Jack 19th February 2017 08:00

Before my time but I did take a highly polished gleaming Queen's flight Andover into Majunga in the mid 80s. One of the locals took one look at us and said 'ah Royal Air Force' then pointed at our aircraft and said ........ 'Shackleton - Exascot (Post #48)


I took a gleaming Queen's Flight Andover into there in the 80s. A local ground crew chap took one look and said, 'Ah Royal Air Force; Shackleton'. - Kitty Hawk 1

But did they "get a room"?;):ok:

Jack

JW411 19th February 2017 16:42

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Here's another one I found this afternoon. Once described by one of our captains as "the place where the bed bugs and the mosquitoes vie for the privilege of biting an Englishman".

Alan Mills 20th February 2017 10:58

That looks like one of the local taxys. I remember the upper internal balcony at the Hotel de France, which drained into the communal loo, and soaked the cardboard box full of used toilet paper.

brakedwell 21st February 2017 10:18

ISTR the Hotel de France produced a fine Bouillabaisse :D

JW411 21st February 2017 10:33

What I do remember was standing in the bar just as the sun was going down and getting up close to the many and varied local insects that were falling out of the rafters into my hair and my beer!

wingnutsdg 30th March 2017 10:53

Best Detachment
 
I was at Majunga with a 204 Sqn detachment from Ballykelly in 69 (I think). The best detachment among so many others.

GIGFY 14th September 2017 03:19

You needd to try and make contact with a guy called Ron Coles, ex-leckie I think. Someone, somewhere will know how to contact him.
He was the oracle for 42Sqn in its day and never let a day go by without a diary note.


Originally Posted by Steve Bond (Post 9679793)
Hello Shck1,

I would like to talk to you - and indeed anyone else here - about your time there for my forthcoming book 'Shackleton Boys'. Please get in touch.

Regards

Steve Bond


Plugsy 1st December 2017 02:52

Majunga, 1969, double detachment, 204 sqn out of BK, 19 years old, say no more !!
Plugsy, rock on Shack beys, H & R BK suks, all bitter and twisted !!

wingnutsdg 3rd December 2017 06:35


Originally Posted by Plugsy (Post 9974926)
Majunga, 1969, double detachment, 204 sqn out of BK, 19 years old, say no more !!
Plugsy, rock on Shack beys, H & R BK suks, all bitter and twisted !!

I was there at the same time as you Plugsy, I wish I could have stayed longer. ("Horace") :ok:

Alison0904 9th August 2022 18:41

Butterlflies…
 

Originally Posted by jackbeveridge (Post 6286514)
I was stationed at majunga commcen in 1970 for the regular 6 months tour. Happy days. I enjoyed reading the majunga forum. brought back memories. one incident spings to mind. About 6 of us organised a trip up to the top end of madagascar to collect sea shells. Seemingly they are quite rare. Two landrovers with trailers carrying all the gear, including fresh water, tents ect. An officer approached us and asked if he could come with us as he was a keen butterfly collector and he was desparate to catch some of the rare butterflies which are native only to Mada. We ofcourse agreed. We didnt make our intended destination, got lost in jungle and some of the roads were totally impassable. So this guy persuaded us to help him catch butterflies instead of sea-shells. He majically produced three or four nets and gave us a few basic tips on the art of catching and killing the butterflies without damaging the wings or bodies of the beasts. So there we were prancing about in the jungle catching butterflies. You couldnt make it up. he was like a young kid let loose in a sweetie-shop. And we all joined in the big game hunt with loads of enthusiasm. I have just discovered, in attic, some slides of that particular hack. Now on my pc. If you are that officer then i would be more than happy to send you these photos. Or to anyone else who is interested. My email address is
[email protected]

I’ve got a feeling this officer could have been my Dad… he’d have been about 28 back then. He was a keen butterfly collector and sounds like the bizarre sort of thing he’d do. His name is Nick Wright. Sadly recently passed away but would be great to see the pics if you still have them. Thanks

Imagegear 10th August 2022 08:43

I had a work colleague back in the 90's who was a Lady RN CPO at Majunga Commcen in the 60's.

A delightful Lady, I doubt she is still around.

IG


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