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Finger Poking 22nd June 2007 07:01

Get Over Jaguar !
 
How much money is it costing? :=

It is not sad the Jag has been taken out of service. It is part French and OLD. It is a piece of metal.... GET LIVES & GET OVER IT.

My point though, is this. How much Money is being wasted on Fuel & Maintenance of retired Aircraft so they can KEEP ON syaing Goodbye? A new Paint job for one this week.... that will be another Married Quarter renovation budget GONE. :ugh:

Stop wasting money, stop saying goodbye and let 11 Have the HAS Site.

(Oh and someone give a map of the site to Any Buffon-Pilot thinking of leading {badly} a Flypast)

MostlyHarmless 22nd June 2007 08:16

Oooooohhh. Someone got out the wrong side of bed this morning!

glum 22nd June 2007 08:34

Has a point though...

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 22nd June 2007 08:52

While we are at it, let's close all the museums and release some much needed building sites. We could then do some real recycling and recover some valuable aluminium to sell to the Chinese. Remember, if it isn't earning money, it isn't earning its keep.

AR1 22nd June 2007 08:58

Are you my Wife? Thats more or less what shes been saying after my Jaguar was withdrawn from service late last year due to running costs.

Zoom 22nd June 2007 09:13

What's a Buffon-Pilot? I try to keep up with the RAF's inventory and trades/specialisations but that one has escaped me.

3 bladed beast 22nd June 2007 09:20

WHATS A BUFFON PILOT??????????

Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon (September 7, 1707 – April 16, 1788) was a French naturalist, mathematician, biologist, cosmologist and author. Buffon's views influenced the next two generations of naturalists, including Jean-Baptiste Lamarck and Charles Darwin.

Hope this helps......

Zoom 22nd June 2007 09:31

Helpful after a fashion, but what did he fly?

spectre150 22nd June 2007 09:50

The word that springs to mind is 'killjoy'. I have never flown the Jaguar nor been stationed at Colt/CGY but i dont begrudge them their farewells. If the various swansong events and activities had not been allowed to take place I dont think it would have made ANY noticeable difference to the rest of the budget (be it Families Quarter renovation budgets, ammunition or equipment for current ops or anything else for that matter).

Door Slider 22nd June 2007 10:06

"""It is part French and OLD. It is a piece of metal.... """"""


As are the Gazelle and Puma, when we getting rid of those?? At least the Puma has an Operational output!

artyhug 22nd June 2007 11:51

I thought the Puma was plastic...... ;)

Jackonicko 22nd June 2007 12:04

1) The special colour scheme to which you refer has had No impact on the public purse, since it was paid for by Jaguar Cars/Aircraft Illustrated.

Redecorating a married quarter might be essential and laudable, but I'd be astonished if you could find a sponsor willing to pay for the entire process.

2) Continued flying: You will be aware that (like those pilots who haven't yet been posted) these ageing jets benefit from being flown, while the need to deliver them to Cosford does require pilots to retain currency.

There really has not been much flying, and the Jag is not an expensive asset to operate.

The PR and recruiting value has been pretty significant, too.

3) Look up 'morale', 'pride', 'esprit de corps', 'elan', 'dash' and 'squadron spirit' in the dictionary.

4) Also look up 'envious', 'killjoy' and 'bell end' and read Professor Plum's treatise on "Trying harder at school and its effect on career outcomes". You really should have read it years ago, I suspect, and applied its lessons.

5) And finally, it is sad. Not just for the blokes who flew and maintained it, and who have been treated with almost superhuman levels of shabbiness, but also for the Harrier and Tornado blokes, whose workload and operational tempo will now increase, and who will suffer progressively greater over-stretch, and to the taxpayer, who will have to fork out billions on Harrier rear fuselages when we find that they will not last until JSF arrives, but would have done had a squadron or two of Jags been retained.

It's also sad that the RAF now lacks a CAS platform with a helmet sight, IDM, etc. etc.

I'm a dab hand with these computers, and here's one I just photo-shopped yesterday..... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...icko/jagt4.png

Release-Authorised 22nd June 2007 12:06

Seeing as its get at Jaguars day.......

The withdrawal from service ruined the trial of using the Jaguar in conjunction with the Sea Harrier Ski-Jump. They were going to start the Jaguar at the top of the ramp then roll it down to get enough speed to carry a proper payload...:}

JagRigger 22nd June 2007 13:06

Jackoniko - well said - especially at block 4. I nearly chocked on my coffee at that point. :ok:

Compressorstall 22nd June 2007 13:57

It does sound like Finger Poking didn't get a single seat recommend (although he may have been happier - and safer - on his own), or maybe he couldn't download the Jag for his Flight Sim.

Jackonicko - add to your list vs the GR9 "and doesn't have a gun";)

Jaguar Pilot 22nd June 2007 15:19

Compressorstall,

Nicely put.

Jackonicko,

Same. I too use Photoshop & Illustrator professionally. Tell me please - how do you attach an image from personal computer file to a post? Every time I try it a box appears requiring the URL from which the image is to be extracted.

Kind regards whoever you both are.

JP

Archimedes 22nd June 2007 15:29

JP,
You need to use an image hosting site such as photobucket, and to upload from there.

Thus, using my photbucket account:

1. Click on the insert image icon in the message tool bar (one in from the speech bubble on the very right hand side of the bottom row of icons)

2. When the script prompt box appears, enter the URL for your image - on photobucket, and I assume other sites, you simply cut and paste the URL link into the line in the script prompt box - in the case below, I'm pasting in the following http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...-11-03067b.jpg

3. Then press 'OK'

4. Et voila!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...-11-03067b.jpg

I apologising for lowering the tone with an F3, I've not yet uploaded the shot of the 54 Sqn Jag refuelling that I have...:}

Photobucket is found at http://photobucket.com/

TorqueOfTheDevil 22nd June 2007 16:07


3) Look up 'morale', 'pride', 'esprit de corps', 'elan', 'dash' and 'squadron spirit' in the dictionary.

4) Also look up 'envious', 'killjoy' and 'bell end' and read Professor Plum's treatise on "Trying harder at school and its effect on career outcomes". You really should have read it years ago, I suspect, and applied its lessons.

5) And finally, it is sad. Not just for the blokes who flew and maintained it, and who have been treated with almost superhuman levels of shabbiness, but also for...the taxpayer, who will have to fork out billions on Harrier rear fuselages when we find that they will not last until JSF arrives, but would have done had a squadron or two of Jags been retained.
:D:D:D:D:D

Tartan Stazi 22nd June 2007 17:10

My God!!!!:eek:

Is that an F3 with a Map in it!!!! :}

Jaguar Pilot 22nd June 2007 17:42

Archimedes,

Thank you very kindly.

Regards,

JP:ok:


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