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Flatus Veteranus 18th December 2006 18:16

WTF is JFAC?
 
The proliferation of acronyms in the services never ceases to amaze (and confuse) me! Many of the posts on this forum are unintelligible to anyone who retired more than a few months ago. Now I hear on the Christmas Card grapevine that a distant relative is likely to be posted to "JFAC" at High Wycombe. Can anyone provide a translation? I would be most grateful as his uncle, apart from me, would like to know WTF he will be doing!

A very Merry Christmas to all those on active service and to all Ppruners.

My daughter, who married a Frog, was asked to give a chat at her sprogs' school on English Christmas traditions with particular reference to Christmas Pud. We had pre-positioned our 2006 pud, made to a traditional family recipe, in France in November. So my beloved daughter said "Better than that, I will bring one along to the school". Silly girl! Inevitably the froglets demolished it. Not a crumb left for poor old FV! And my grandsprog ate three helpings! :mad:

shawshank 18th December 2006 18:23

JFACHQ

Joint Force Air Component Headquarters

A GOOGLE search should provide all your answers.

Merry Xmas

Exrigger 18th December 2006 19:20

I concur with FV, they even give out Acronym booklets on aircraft courses now, and they get thicker each time I see them. I was given a task to write a manual for an aircraft that involved taking Word documents and transferring them into an electronic version, the Word versions were supplied by the RAF. I decided to add an Acronym list as there was so many, from memory I was able to translate some of them, I had to give up with the majority. When I sent the powers that be the version with the missing Acronyms highlighted with a plea to tell me what they meant, i got it back and approximately 5 remained unknown, I had to delete them from the list and the original text, (had to do a bit of re-wording so it still made sense).

Ali Barber 18th December 2006 20:46

At times its like trying to read Arabic. You have to fit the acronym into the context of the sentence. The classic example is ILS which is either Instrument Landing System or Integrated Logistic Support.

I got a letter from the head shed asking me to do something about some nonsense acronym. I phoned him to ask what it meant and he told me he didn't know. He was just passing the message on from a letter he received. I said if he ever found out what it meant, he should get back to me. Never heard from him again!

Not an acronym, but I've drafted 2 letters that have been signed off by very high priced help with the phrase "onageristic estimate" in them.

"The name onager comes from the Greek onagros or wild ass" hence Onageristic Estimate = Wild Ass Guess:ok:

Sloppy Link 18th December 2006 20:55

TLA - Three Lettered Abbreviation. Fantastic, who would have thought of it!

SirToppamHat 18th December 2006 20:56

Note to self, "Remember to use the words 'Onageristic Estimate' in next piece of staff work!"

JFAC HQ done above.
JFACC Joint Force Air Component Commander (Usually Gp Capt or above). Think of the JFACC as a kind of mobile Combined Air Ops Centre (CAOC). The UK JFAC HQ is a relatively small core organization which relies on external reinforcement (ERS) when they deploy. They also rely largely on host-nation support or specialist deployable UK assistance (eg TCW) for comms and IT support.

As with the CAOC, they issue the ATO and ACO if they have OPCOM of assigned forces and an Area of Responsibility (AOR).

As Shawshank suggests, though, Google is pretty good for explaining.

STH

Flatus Veteranus 19th December 2006 10:16

Thanks for the help and the suggestion about Google. :)

MrBernoulli 19th December 2006 10:21

Its all bollocks! Abbreviations and acronyms like this are for folk who can't speak English. Utter tripe.

brakedwell 19th December 2006 10:25

Flatus, is it too late to produce another Old Family Recipe Christmas Pud? (OFRCP)
Happy Xmas all.

arthurwellington 19th December 2006 10:26

It is essentially a standing component level HQ, circa 70 cadre staff augmented as required. A deployable CAOC is part of the task. It is Stategy to Task for A1-9.

Generally misunderstood by FEs as they only usually see the JFACHQ in a HICON function producing a reverse engineered flying programme to achieve Tier 1 trg objs.

ORAC 19th December 2006 10:37

So the JFACC sends the AOD and ACO to the CAOC, AOCC, ACC and AFLD (at least in ACCS); the CAOC plans the ATO with COMAOs; the AOCC plans the CAS; the ACC plans the AD. Then the WX goes TU and it all goes FUBAR.

Just remember that a US CAOC is an AOC and a French one is a CCOA and youŽll be OK..... :ok:

ShyTorque 19th December 2006 11:01

Got that - now, what does ORAC stand for? :confused:

:E

Ali Barber 19th December 2006 11:19

ORGANICS BY REALTIME AIRBORNE CHROMATOGRAPH (ORAC)

Google is a wonderful thing!

Ali Barber 19th December 2006 11:21

Or it could be:
Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC)
I'm confused again!

SamCaine 19th December 2006 14:22

Wasn't it the character out of some sci-fi prgo in the 70s?

diginagain 19th December 2006 14:44

"Blake's Seven" onboard PC

hobie 19th December 2006 15:33


Google is a wonderful thing!
I know ..... :)

I've just found out what "WTF" means .... :bored:

My Life's learning is complete .... :p

lancs 19th December 2006 16:19

From here:

ORAC - Oracle 9i Real Application Cluster

Hmmm, memory suggests that JPA is based on this...

Talking Radalt 19th December 2006 18:12


Originally Posted by MrBernoulli (Post 3027278)
Its all bollocks! Abbreviations and acronyms like this are for folk who can't speak English. Utter tripe.

Ah, Them damn Yanks you mean? :hmm:
Someone mentioned Orac:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orac :ok:

EODFelix 19th December 2006 19:01

Was an IED placed in the CAOC? Just wondered why ATO was tasked!! ;)

threepointonefour 19th December 2006 19:35


Originally Posted by EODFelix (Post 3028404)
Was an IED placed in the CAOC? Just wondered why ATO was tasked!! ;)


Would that be a CAIEDOC? Is that some welsh dept? :confused:



... incidentally, apologies for any offence (to ecologists), but this made me laugh;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...o/disaster.gif :=

Merry Christmas

Climebear 19th December 2006 19:53


Originally Posted by SirToppamHat (Post 3026413)
As with the CAOC, they issue the ATO and ACO if they have OPCOM of assigned forces and an Area of Responsibility (AOR).

Just to split hairs -

OPCOM is usually held by the Joint Commander (for usual UK deployments this owuld be CJO) who normally delegates OPCON to the Joint Task Force Commander. Componant Commanders are more than likely given TACOM of assigned forces.

Of course in these days of Coalition Air Ops and various national 'red cards' a new system has evolved:

OPCAN
OPCAN'T
TACWILL
TACWON'T

Talking Radalt 20th December 2006 00:21


Originally Posted by Climebear (Post 3028496)
OPCOM is usually held by the Joint Commander (for usual UK deployments this owuld be CJO) who normally delegates OPCON to the Joint Task Force Commander.

Ok, where do BritFlik ROMCOMS fit in? And why is Hugh Grant in them all? :confused:

GrazingIncidence 20th December 2006 01:14

Someone once told me that the Fairy Gannett had a device/tube which could be deployed beneath the aircraft and which was termed in the Tech Pubs the OMD.

No translation was offered.

However, the story goes that this was Fairy's Tech Writer's abbreviation for Old Maid's Delight - a name bestowed by the factory maties when they were building the first example.:) Can this be true?

GI

Rigga 20th December 2006 11:30

...and it doesn't stop when you leave!
 
TLA's and other acronyms
AAD Additional Airworthiness Directive
AAN Additional Airworthiness Notice
AC Advisory Circular (FAA)
ACJ Advisory Circular Joint (JAA/EASA)
AD Airworthiness Directive
AMC Acceptable Means of Compliance (EASA)
AMOC Acceptable Means of Compliance
AOC Air Operators Certificate
ARC Airworthiness Review Certificate (EASA Form 25)
C of A Certificate of Airworthiness
CAAIPS Civil Aircraft Airworthiness Information and Procedures (CAP 562)
CAME Continuing Airworthiness Management Exposition (Part-M, Sub-part G)
CFR Code of Federal Regulations (FAA) See examples
CMP Configuration, Maintenance and Procedures document (ETOPS)
CR Commission Regulation (EU/EASA)
CS Certification Specifications (EASA)
CtAW Continuous Airworthiness (CAA)
EASA European Aviation Safety Agency
EC European Commission
ED European Decision (EU/EASA)
EROPS Extended Range OPerationS (Also see - LROPS [Long-] and ETOPS, [Extended Twin-engined-])
ETOPS Extended-range Twin-engine OPerationS (Also see - LROPS [Long-] and EROPS, Extended-)
GM Guidance Material (EASA)
GR Generic Requirement (CAA - CAP 747 Appendix 1)
ICAO International Civil Aiviation Organisation
IEM Interpretive/Explanatary Material (JAA/EASA)
IR Implementing Rule (EASA)
JAA Joint Airworthiness Authority
JAR Joint Airworthiness Regulation
LROPS Long Range OPerationS (Also see - ETOPS [Extended Twin-engined-] and EROPS, Extended-)
MAMIS Mandatory Aircraft Modifications and Inspections Summary (CAP 474)
MMOE Maintenance Management Organisation Exposition (JAR-Ops & Part M)
MOE Maintenance Organisation Exposition (Part 145)
MPD Maintenance Planning Document
TCDS Type Certificate Data Sheet
TGL Temporary Guidance Leaflet (JAA)
TGM Temporary Guidance Material (EASA)
TLA's Three (or more) Letter Acronyms!

Examples:
EASA - IR CR (EC) No.2042/2003 Annex I - Part-M (Continuing Airworthiness)
EASA - AMC & GM to IR CR (EC) No.2042/2003 Annex II - Part-145 (Maintenance Organisation Exposition)
CFR 14, Chap 1, Sub-Chap H, Part 145 - Repair Stations.

Pontius Navigator 20th December 2006 17:46

Do not confuse JFAC with JFACSU.

threepointonefour 20th December 2006 21:56


Originally Posted by Rigga (Post 3029469)
TLA's and other acronyms
AAD Additional Airworthiness Directive
AAN Additional Airworthiness Notice
AC Advisory Circular (FAA)
ACJ Advisory Circular Joint (JAA/EASA)
AD Airworthiness Directive
AMC Acceptable Means of Compliance (EASA)
AMOC Acceptable Means of Compliance
AOC Air Operators Certificate
ARC Airworthiness Review Certificate (EASA Form 25)
C of A Certificate of Airworthiness
CAAIPS Civil Aircraft Airworthiness Information and Procedures (CAP 562)
CAME Continuing Airworthiness Management Exposition (Part-M, Sub-part G)
CFR Code of Federal Regulations (FAA) See examples
CMP Configuration, Maintenance and Procedures document (ETOPS)
CR Commission Regulation (EU/EASA)
CS Certification Specifications (EASA)
CtAW Continuous Airworthiness (CAA)
EASA European Aviation Safety Agency
EC European Commission
ED European Decision (EU/EASA)
EROPS Extended Range OPerationS (Also see - LROPS [Long-] and ETOPS, [Extended Twin-engined-])
ETOPS Extended-range Twin-engine OPerationS (Also see - LROPS [Long-] and EROPS, Extended-)
GM Guidance Material (EASA)
GR Generic Requirement (CAA - CAP 747 Appendix 1)
ICAO International Civil Aiviation Organisation
IEM Interpretive/Explanatary Material (JAA/EASA)
IR Implementing Rule (EASA)
JAA Joint Airworthiness Authority
JAR Joint Airworthiness Regulation
LROPS Long Range OPerationS (Also see - ETOPS [Extended Twin-engined-] and EROPS, Extended-)
MAMIS Mandatory Aircraft Modifications and Inspections Summary (CAP 474)
MMOE Maintenance Management Organisation Exposition (JAR-Ops & Part M)
MOE Maintenance Organisation Exposition (Part 145)
MPD Maintenance Planning Document
TCDS Type Certificate Data Sheet
TGL Temporary Guidance Leaflet (JAA)
TGM Temporary Guidance Material (EASA)
TLA's Three (or more) Letter Acronyms!

Examples:
EASA - IR CR (EC) No.2042/2003 Annex I - Part-M (Continuing Airworthiness)
EASA - AMC & GM to IR CR (EC) No.2042/2003 Annex II - Part-145 (Maintenance Organisation Exposition)
CFR 14, Chap 1, Sub-Chap H, Part 145 - Repair Stations.


... someone needs to get out more ...


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