Dafur
 

And the next deployment is..............

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6178209.stm

Are they serious about a no fly zone, and are we expected to police it. I know the Jag's might like a swansong, but surely not! ;)

Op DC
 

Surely this is just the ticket for our glorious leader, a nice 'safe' peacekeeping operation to take the attention away from Iraq and Afghanistan and all those troops who keep inconveniencing his PR people by dying.

No doubt the Jags would do a sterling job as always, might take them some time to deploy by surface though, I don't think there's any spare AT to move them out as befits an urgent operational deny Xmas 06. :ok:

Why would you police a no-fly zone with Jags?

My understanding is that the Sudanese (which I assume to be the aggressor at which this no-fly zone is aimed?) have in the past had Fulcrums, but there seems to be some doubt as to whether any are still flying due to attrition and spares problems. Also read somewhere that they have some old F-5Es and Chinese F-7s. Anyone have better (open-source) info?

Of course to police this area you'd need some sort of radar cover - now where did we put those flying pie-storage aircraft?

Op DENY-XMAS .... GO.

Good job we're just under-manned and not over-stretched, but at least the allowances will not be affected by recent changes to the system so no-one will lose out ...

STH

FX-Based: .....Based on Jane's information, the SAF has at least 16 operational MiG-29s. These aircraft are probably operated by Russian mercenaries. In addition, the SAF is known to operate at least two MiG-23 Flogger aircraft.

The MiG-29 squadron is located at Khartoun, while the two MiG-23s are based at Bur (Port) Sudan. The MiG-29 purchase represents an expenditure of approximately $400 million.

Reports indicate that Chinese jets sold to Sudan by China and Iran since the 1990s include over 40 Shenyang J-6 and J-7 jet fighters, and more recently some F-7 supersonic fighters, an improved version of the Russian MiG-21 Fishbed.

Based on Jane's, the Sudanese operate two modern air traffic control (ATC) radars that cover the southern approach to Darfur. Both of these Alenea-Marconi radars have a dual-use air defense capability along with civilian ATC.

According to Jane's, Sudan has 20 SA-2 Guideline SAM batteries, with associated Spoon Rest and Fan Song radars. Only three of the batteries are believed to be operational.......

yup, my SinL is on unspecified but short NTM.






T W A N G



snap!

I heard a while back that UK was thinking of offering some SH for a limited period. 33 Sqn?

A Punch and Judy (sorry Bush & Blair) stance not quoting the War on Terror. :hmm: Get a move on Sudan.

Don't the French have a bunch of Mirages in Chad? They could do something useful for a change instead of making wazzing videos.

Much of the air launched violence in Darfur is courtesy of the Hinds operating out of El Fashir and iron bombs pushed out of the back of fixed wing transports. The former thumbing their noses at the AU headquarters as they overflew despite the no-fly policy in force in Nov04. Not sure that the fast jet took any part in the atrocities in Darfur (although that may have changed in the past few months).

So, we know where they are based and we want them to stop flying. Jobs for the Boys?!!!!!!:} :ok:

Lesson from History
 

Why not send somebody called "Gordon" to Khartoum and send 2 Jags in for support. Don't bother with the relief column this time though -we'd be well rid!!

:E

Wensley

That has raised a good laugh on what has otherwise been a trying day. VMT AA

Bet you they send Typhoon - got to be seen getting value for money......

Any thoughts on potential FOB's?

Your informant was/informants were wrong

Not again.
 

No, no, no!:mad:

Nairobi perhaps? http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/2...s_0506_09.html

Mr Point, nice thought and a great job for the Flt Ops branch.

Start with a large, basic global political chart and red pen. Cross out all those countries neutral friendly to Opfor. Take an orange pen and cross out all those countries not friendly to us.

Take a ruler and blue pen and draw in tracks from MOD to potential FOB via staging posts. Measure distances. Use kilometers then no one will have the wrong type of miles.

Problem with Nairobi, from a bomb truck or interceptor POV is that it is 1000 miles the wrong side of the action.

Kampala is better but still the wrong side.

Egypt is about the same distance from the action but closer to home.

Now Chad is a bit far from home but closer to the action and the wrong side from the POV of Opfor. It will also have a decided advantage in more than adequate stocks of Vin Rouge :}