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Brat 24th October 2006 22:53

couple of Lympstone mud runs might cure the hilarity of the lamentable performance in the vid. Glad the guys are safe. Get well soon.

spectre150 25th October 2006 05:36

Alfie c, I bet your post #1 was a bundle of laughs too. You are free to contribute the same as anyone else but if pprune doesnt rock your boat remember it isnt compulsory.\

Meanwhile... someone just beat me to it with the inevitable comment about the importance of posture when ejecting. True the more modern seat dont have such a big punch as the old telescopic riails we had on Canberras and similar, but it does have to big powerful enough to clear the fin. Navs always used to be told that having the seat motored right the way to the top so that the top of your bone done was virtually touching the canopy was bad. In other words, if time allowed, there were a few things you could do to minimise the risk of injusry on ejection.

Sqn markings are not necessarily an indication of who was flying the jet these days, especially at Marham where the sqns are paired up.

Best wishes to the 2 guys involved.

Sensible Garage 25th October 2006 06:20

ZG711/O Tornado GR4A 820/BT178/3394 2sq
f/f 07nov89, del 26apr90, 13sq/E (dec91/oct94), 13sq/P (oct94/jul98), 2sq/O (dec98/feb99), St.Athan (jun99/12nov99), to BAe Warton for conversion to GR4A (12nov99/20jul00), St.Athan (20jul00/30aug00), 2sq/(O) (30aug00/aug04), 617sq/O (dec04/jan06), 15(R)sq/O (mar06/aug06), 2sq/O (aug06)
w/o 24oct06

MOD released some high res piccies:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...tOfEngland.htm

The Swinging Monkey 25th October 2006 07:08

Great news that both are OK and well done to all involved.
Alfie C - you need assessment and a life mate, and good uck to your wife!
Kind regards to all
TSM

London Mil 25th October 2006 07:12

Pah, merely a scatch. The techies will have that one flying again in a couple of weeks! :eek:

flipster 25th October 2006 07:37

TSM

Was that an 'L' or an 'F'?

Flip

tonkatechie 25th October 2006 08:03


Originally Posted by alfie C (Post 2926746)
(*mad rant*)
My Wife is calling.

...must dash, she deflates pretty quickly these days....

Try a different bait next time.

Focks 2 25th October 2006 10:08


Originally Posted by alfie C (Post 2926746)
My Wife is calling.

Has 'she' got a hardon again?

Originally Posted by Sensible Garage (Post 2927095)

Getting it there was the easy bit.
Glad crew are OK.

hobie 25th October 2006 10:10


utter wasters
must say I thought the thread came together well, with prompt/developing news ..... photo's and some good background information ....

Oh, by the way .......

there is someone on the phone for "alfie" ..... :)

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg

GPMG 25th October 2006 10:38


Originally Posted by Brat (Post 2926784)
couple of Lympstone mud runs might cure the hilarity of the lamentable performance in the vid. Glad the guys are safe. Get well soon.


Or perhaps the Royal Artillery could recce the beach before attempting to land.

Or stop trying to be Royal Marines....although you can't blame them for wishing.

Glad crew are ok, hope they don't have to spend too long form filling.

Pontius Navigator 25th October 2006 11:06


Originally Posted by hobie (Post 2927419)
must say I thought the thread came together well,

Hobie, quite agree. At the expense of thread drift, and to avoid opening up another thread, I think this forum, used sensibly, is an excellent tool for diseminating information which used to be done in the crew room but with a far greater knowledge base. I say 'used' to do in the crew room as days of old with tales over coffee seem well passed. Everyone is too busy.

Even the flight safety mags are now weighty, professional tomes that demand more than a quick glance through.

Thing about pprune is the quick Q&A and often more accurate and far less rumour based than a crew room.

Wycombe 25th October 2006 11:49

Alfie
 
I won't stoop to the insults and banterous jibes that some others have made above, but, having said that I will say......

That is possibly the most pompous post I have ever read on this Forum.

buoy15 25th October 2006 12:57

WhiteOvies
The mud seems less of a problem compared to all those weapons being waved around in all the wrong directions!!!:eek:

WhiteOvies 25th October 2006 13:08

B15,
Agreed, wouldn't want to be the cameraman! But with that amount of mud in them do you think they'd actually work? It does prove that it's really difficult to hold your weapon with an assualt troop life jacket on - which is designed to keep a fully loaded booty afloat.
Having walked in fairly unpleasant UK river mud I dread to think what's in the Iraqi harbour mud, hope they were up to date with their jabs!

PN,
A forum like this is the perfect place to help fill your experience bucket before the other one runs out. Sharing of experiences is a key tool in flight safety, hence the fact we are all pestered to contribute to Flight Safety mags. Also the best place to find info in a hurry, Pprune was the first place I checked when I heard about the Tonka crash. Enough has been said re Alfie posts!

buoy15 25th October 2006 13:16

AlfieC
You know you are not supposed to be on this thread unless you are taking your medication
You really have been a naughty boy - so you are to go to your room and not watch any soaps or Sky for a whole month - before you go, say sorry to all these nice people!:8

Airbrake 25th October 2006 13:27

Any names released yet?

GPMG 25th October 2006 13:28

Can I just clear something up for anyone jumping to conclusions.

They are not Bootnecks, they are pongo artillery.

We found that it is usualy a good idea to recce the beach first.

diginagain 25th October 2006 13:38

Weren't they 29 (Commando) Regt RA?

Yes I know its semantics, but they like to think they're cabbage-hats.

BTW, get well soon guys.

GPMG 25th October 2006 13:50

Some foot and mouth Royal Artillery Regt in Iraq that thought they would have a go a beach landings,they sailed up to the beach in the Al-Faw area jumped over the front and rapidly disappeared up to their armpits in liquid mud.

Not 29cdo.

clicker 25th October 2006 14:19

I was in anorak mode at Coningsby yesterday (for alfies info trying to photograph 3 Sqn Typhoon) :).

I was very impressed at the way D&D handled the matter when Rescue 13 was unable to contact Kinloss RCC and from an outsiders point of view everything was handled exactly as one would hope for. Co-ordination between the agencies was top class from what I could make out.

Oh a message for alfie. In my normal working life I help deal with people like you. We get the police officers to take them to the local secure ward. Thought the nickname LondonMil would have given the game away, oh well never mind.


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