I'm with you on this one BrickH,

I see very little sense in marrying a Californian godess, please nobody shatter my aged Baywatch enhanced illusions, and then bringing her back here for a life of wind and drizzle:eek:

Max take her home you ar@e so she can re bronze and spend the rest of her days in a swimsuit..............................and send me some pics:E

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This is proving to be a learning lesson to me as well....and also learning about the flag.

Now lads, getting her to Blighty is easy.....but convincing her to stay and succeeding, deserves admiration.:ok:

This link answers the questions about the design....hit the Affidavits section wherein the kids swear to the actual design.

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagtale.html

Old George wanted six pointed stars but Mrs.Ross suggested she could make five pointed stars with one snip of the scissors.

Most American women are pretty clever at snipping with scissors....ask John Wayne Bobbit if you doubt me. Bear that in mind Maxburner!:eek:

Now if she had just used Pinking Shears....old John could have been a real sport!

Chaps,

My Californian beach bunny (all the way from Santa Barbara) is indeed a godess. If I knew how to post a picture I would! She moved here, ''for about 2 years'', 14 years ago. Still here and loving it, but looking for us to move to a warmer and more tax-friendly climate in the next year or two.

:)

Considered Hawaii, Max?

I married my Darwin, AU wife and brought her to Northern California, where I lived at the time. Way too cold for her, so we moved to Hawaii. Then 9/11 hit. Now we live in Michigan and Winter is approaching. My only salvation with her is we still have the place in Hawaii and are going to retire there for two years, then back to Oz for her.

Yes, we've considered Hawaii, but favouring Spain at the moment. Then again we were in Florida in Febrruary and really enjoyed the trip - to the Destin area. Who knows what the next few years will bring.

I've visited Darwin a couple of times on stopovers, but don't really know the place. Seemed hot and flat, but that's just a quick impression. Northern CA sounds much nicer.

Destin, the best place I know for oysters. Add a wide, white, sugar sand beach, clear waters with dolphins swimming between your legs ... you could do worse.

Darwin is so hot, especially in November, as to be almost uninhabitable. We're going to Cairns, I think. I like Southern Spain, loved Southern France,but I fear European living is on a rapid decline. I'm sitting in Liege, Belgium now, watching it disintegrate.

Can I interject for just one second please.........


WHAT THE HELL does ANY of this have to do with the US FLAG FLYING THE "WRONG" WAY ROUND ON UNIFORMS?

Any chance we can keep to thread just for once on this forum?

So let me get this right you want to talk about some daft bl@@dy flag instead of listening to these good folks describe their gorgeous women and some fantastic places round the globe:rolleyes: ......................me thinks Valley has scrambled your brains QFIdude:ugh:

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The title of the thread takes you, you hope, to a discussion on that very subject.

It somewhat blows away the original thread when you see "I'm shagging a bird from California" or whatever. If people want a thread on who they're shagging, (or married to) and where they're from, perhaps they should start that very thread.

Perhaps you, ABIW, should be the starter for ten! We all know you loadies have a girl in every port! (Or at least Gander, Halifax, etc!!)

I generally land in one place! So that makes Bangor etc out of the sheep field.

I was only having a go a ABIW as I know he lands in Halifax, Gander, Ottawa, Winnipeg, etc. Having been down route with these guys, I know there is at least some shagging going on!

And it ain't "df" alcohol induced!

I have to say that on reflection, the US flag is way too complicated. I mean if you had to take to the streets, it'd take ages to get organised. It be a lot easier for the French , three bits of cloth and a couple of rows of stitches. Easiest of all would be the Japanese. One old bedsheet and a bottle of ketchup and you're off to the riots.



...even easier if you were on your honeymoon :hmm:

I agree to the extent that it IS complicated, but it works the other way too. Think about all those dudes burning home-made American flags world wide. You have to give them credit for all the effort they went through. Also now you know who to aim for....;)

I once saw the S & S put to good use as a security pass. At a secret UN base in East Timor I was approaching the gate behind 1/2 a dozen uniformed yanks(affectionate term). The UN at this place were real PITA about passes and as the little local timorese security guard challenged them for their passes the lead yank just pointed to the flag on his shoulder and breezed past. He was obviously the guide for the others (probably off the visiting ship) as I heard him go on to say, in a really strong southern drawl, "You're supposed to have pass for these places but if you get any problems, just point to the flag."!! It was very well executed.

Use of Flag as Wearing Apparel
 

I guess I am not as "Traditionalist" as I put on.....why is it I am less offended by this use of the flag as compared to some I have seen?



























http://www.sexyswimwear.com/store/im.../zoom/1226.jpg

"Flags are to be hoisted by a single halyard"

Admiralty Manual of Seamanship - c1775

Suggest a cutlass to belay the others and re-send the photos:ok:

Ah, BR 67. Haul away handsomely!

"Uncommon Valor was a Common Virtue"
 

Mount Suribachi, Island of Iwo Jima.....

USMC lost 8,000 Killed in Action, 16,000 wounded.....Japanese lost 21,000 Killed in Action


http://www.goodolddogs3.com/1-iwo-jima-flyover.jpg


http://www.goodolddogs3.com/1-iwo-jima-today.jpg


http://www.goodolddogs3.com/lwojimaflag3.JPG


http://www.goodolddogs3.com/iwojimaflag5.JPG

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh I think you'll find you are mistaken there. The French flag requires only one bit of cloth - the largest piece of pure virgin white cloth you can find. Mounted on a stick and waved vigorously whilst running in a backwards direction.:E

"For sale, French rifles, never used, only been dropped once". :ok: (Forgive me for the digression, but it was Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh that started off on the French!)

Please explain to me
 

I know the Yanks have it in for the Frogs because of 'em not having a bar of the Occupation of Iraq.(Neither the Germans, most Britons, Most Australians, Most of Europe, All of the Middle-East(tee hee), the Africans, and well, let's face it, most of the world. But how do the Italians always seem to escape notice? Hmmm

Thoughts, gentlemen?

You mean the Italians who DID send troops with us?

Interesting that it is burnt. I wonder if that is why protestors burn your flag in what is clearly intended as undignified?

In UK we lay our flags up. Sqn, Regimental, Service and other flags are placed usually in a church and many are very worn. They are usually where a unit was last in action or based and serve as a focal point for reunions or even solitary remembrance. There are of course many other places such as St Clement's Danes for the RAF, in museuma or in Catherderals. Threadbare where they have been in contact with the ground over many years, shot and holed where they have been in action.

One White Ensign was used by the German forces to honour dead sailors in Guernsey. It was then 'stolen' and hidden until after the war and finally laid to rest in St John's Church.

Easiest flag in the world to make is that of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiryea or just plain Libya to the rest of the world. It's a simple green sheet, nice and cheap to bedeck the streets with when Mohammed Quadafi takes a stroll.

There are Italian troops in Iraq ??

Remember this BBC headline from August 24, 2004?
"Italy says it has no intention of withdrawing its 3,000 troops from Iraq in the face of demands from kidnappers who have seized an Italian journalist."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3595618.stm


As of Sep. 21, 2006, Italy has about 1,600 troops in the country, mostly in Nasiriyah, and that force is expected to be withdrawn by year’s end.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14935006/


While they are withdrawing now, at least they have been there since near the beginning!

Melchett01

I am sure that they were no white flags at Verdun in 1916 where the French Army fought the German invader whose avowed aim was the "Bleed the French white". Millions of Frenchmen died in defending La France. I think that your comment was a cheap shot, even if it was meant as a joke.

Hmm
 

What do you mean by at least?
By this logic one can say the Italians are quick to reverse themselves when the error of their ways becomes apparent, and the French are worse than the Italians for not getting involved in the Iraqi quagmire from the get-go??
Given the historical perspective of Indo-China, I would say there's more than a few similarities between the French and Yanks anyway. Both got chucked outta Vietnam. Oops, don't mention that one. :E

Oh no, by all means keep it in our memories, lest we forget what doesn't work.
So far, we're roughly 10-1 (depending on what we decide counts as a conflict), with one current one undecided. And your side's stats?

Do I see some cracks appearing in the Coalition of the Willing?
Well that depends on what we decide counts as a Mission Accomplished, doesn't it. Which side of the ledger did you put Somalia on?

Well, isn't that what any nation should do? In any case it appears very similar mistakes have and are being made in Iraq, so who remembers what is a little moot, but I digress.
My side? Well, you asked:
Boer, First, Second, Malayan, Korean, Vietnam, East Timor, Afghanistan, Iraq.
Most all of 'em from start to finish.
But that's the country I call home, It's not really where I'm FROM. Same as you good self I'd suggest, Bricky. I could seriously muddy your waters by telling you of an ancestral line that as shown a propensity for conquest that would make Dubya weep with desire, but I digress further.
So we've come to this then have we, stats? My team / your team. IMHO you trivialise the whole discussion when you want statistics like that. How do you stack up against the British Empire Hmm? Or the Ottoman Turks, Alexander the Great, hell, while we're at it, the Romans?? Hell, I nearly forgot Napoleon.
The ability to prevail in most conflicts largely due to crushing weight of numbers and weaponry, in MODERN history, hardly equates to proof of moral right, don't you think?
And let's not forget who the "willing" are. U.K.- well, Blair's weak and they can hardly afford to miss this one if they still want to power-share the running of the world now can they? Aussies?- another downpayment on the busted ANZUS treaty, just in case Indonesia look our way. The Europeans that did go? Most of 'em needed the money for their coming- out ball when they appeared from behind the Iron Curtain and needed a new dress to wear at the NATO piss-up.

One current = Iraq, one undecided = Which??:confused:

Most of this trans Atlantic tit-for-tat is utter childish crap. The truth is that ALL Western nations have begun an inglorious slide towards oblivion. No Western country has the will to win anywhere, anymore. Most of you people are very lucky that you are not going to be around at the end of this century as your countries are going to be run in a far different way than they are now. Spare some thought for your grandchildren and the life you are condemming them to.
GAGS
E86

LOL
 

Don't you mean trans-Pacific??:= :ok: :E

Eagle 86, save your doomsday predictions for the street corners and the naive. The fact that George W and a select few lackies (Australia first among them) are bumbling around in the middle east is not indicative of some sort of imminent decline of Western civilization.

"Won't someone think of the little children?" Please.

Biggles,
I'd probably count you among the naive!
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e86

Aaaah, well. This one's run it's course then. Just starting to get hot'n'heavy too.
Back to the bar.:}

Jeez, folks, lighten up. My tongue-in-cheek "stats" post was meant to be exactly that.

Damn, I hate it when I don't spot the tongue-in-cheek!:O
You'll have to forgive us Brickmeister, old boy.
Ya public profile looks like a napalm 'em all sorta guy.:eek:
Or do you prefer to just watch?
Coat / Door

Crossbleed,

Doubt there was much tongue in the cheek actually as in my experiance on these forums there are one or two "good ol boy's" who take real umbrage when you take a swipe the US:rolleyes:

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ABIW,

I'm not sure I would cast aspersions on the good ol' boys. For better or for worse, I'm a Brit here in the US. In the UK, I've noticed a distinct loss of "national identity". In days gone by, those who sought to cast aspersions on the UK got a swift "orf with their heads". Ruthlessly.

As time rolled on, perhaps it wasn't entirely appropriate to rape foreign lands, and the Commonwealth came about. We matured. Our offspring, the United States, is still maturing as a nation. What defiant young adult hasn't set out to "show the world"? A couple of hundred years is a mere augenblick.

In the US, I've noticed a distinct solidarity of the nation. United behind the flag. Along the way, I can't help feeling the UK lost its way a bit. Perhaps that is what happens in old age. But for now, the US is a virile youngster, and making its mark.

Anyhoo (to use an Americanism), this thread started out about the US Flag being worn ass backwards. In summary, if the "traditional view" US flag is worn on the right arm, it is ass backwards.

How could you get "napalm 'em all" from my profile? As a controller ('scuse me, "Air Battle Manager ((I kid you not!))), I much prefer watching at one g, preferably with a cup of coffee. Now nuke 'em all, that's a different story!!!


And for the Capt re Somalia - it was in support of a humanitarian mission. I certainly would not call that a war. Nevertheless, nearly two dozen good men died for no real reason.

Oh, so you now can divine underlying intent for others as well?

I'm happy to take 'incoming' about the US as long as you are willing to catch return volleys. Or can it only be one-sided lest you take 'umbrage?'