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CBA_caption 24th April 2006 17:59

FJJP,

I know, I know, but I had to ask if only to see what obscure AP/JSP they quote when the tell me to sod off!

CBA

Anyone else who's interested,

No idea what Transition Family Charge is, but if they're giving money away I want some. Apparently there is an area on the payslip that tells you when rates/pay scales change. If its empty - no change.

I was under the impression that Service Days pay is LSA and stuff (albeit not broken down).

The statement appears on line and is also posted to you, but not to your home just to your work address. So, even though they get sent out 2nd class post by JPAC (ie no extra expense) they will not send them to your home address. I do not call that progress.

For what its worth my basic was correct. Here endeth the sum total of my JPA pay knowledge. Minus some random deductions you will never find out about and some allowances that are probably wrong!

CBA

ZH875 24th April 2006 18:04

I can't wait for the Monty Python sketch about the RAF introducing JPA, No-one would believe it!!

Hydraulic Palm Tree 24th April 2006 18:11

CBA Caption

Ref Service Days Pay Giving - can't be right as they have deducted money rather than giving to me?

HPT

SpotterFC 24th April 2006 18:15

And to top it all off, just to keep the end-user on-side...

AFPAA have decided in their infinite wisdom to not post daily sitreps on the farce that is JPA - oh no - they're only going to post weekly summaries. Telling us what's going on as it happens? - that would let people know that they haven't got a scooby what's gone wrong.

So, it's only Monday and despite Self-Service users supposedly having access from 1230, by 1330 the Server appears to have crashed and the system went RED and AFPAA don't want to give information out - medals for the guilty have already been issued and the hunt for the innocent is on! Wonder what other excuse (read "processor intensive task like the Payroll") they can find to stop Self-Service logging on and not look like the bunch of incompetents they seem to be?

Scribbly Bloke 24th April 2006 18:29

Good JPA Site
 
Gentlemen (and Ladies too),

When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.

CBA_caption 24th April 2006 19:05

HPT,

Stabbing in dark now. Benevolent fund?

CBA

Almost_done 24th April 2006 19:17


Originally Posted by Scribbly Bloke
Gentlemen (and Ladies too),

When you get a minute have a look at the Brampton/Wyton/Henlow intranet site and click on the JPA icon. They have an excellent site, with up to date info on it. Worth a look.

Marham too

Safety_Helmut 24th April 2006 19:33

Shouldn't we be adding those responsible to http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=221444 ??:)

Hydraulic Palm Tree 24th April 2006 19:48

CBA - The RAF Benevolent Fund

We all get fleeced to sign up to donate during training and last month my contribution was 35p, but has obviously gone up at the same rate as SFA!!

HPT

LFFC 24th April 2006 19:49

SH

This may help!

http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/afpaa.aspx

I especially love this bit!


AFPAA wanted to reduce costs, modernise outdated IT systems and improve personnel services to the UK’s military service members, retirees and dependents. Over the years, and through a renegotiated contract designed to take the partnership even farther, EDS and the Agency have worked together to achieve just that.

CBA_caption 24th April 2006 20:04

"...effectively manage change." and "...expertise in integrating IT solutions and administrative processes...":mad:

Shouldn't this be reported to the Advertising Standards Agency?

CBA

Vage Rot 24th April 2006 20:55

only get 20mins on the net here in sandy climates on a day when we can book and guarantee not having to go flying, thereby relinquishing our place on the net to some bluntie holiday maker!!! Any chance of a quick "what's going on and are we getting paid/LSSA/etc" at the end of the month?

Tonkenna 24th April 2006 23:28

Well, there is even less news as to what is going on with this c0ckup for those of us in the South Atlantic. No doubt I will find out that I have not been paid when I get a very angry email from the ex-wife that she's not got her dosh.... look forward to that:hmm:

Can't find anywhere down here to log-on, and have spoken to loads of people who haven't got any log-on details.

This is just bl00dy appaling, but it will be hailed agreat success and many will already have been promoted because of it.

Tonks:hmm:

D-IFF_ident 25th April 2006 03:27

Friend of a friend is on the team at Innsworth - where they are working 18 hour shifts. The pay run will not work - tried and failed 8 times - so expect to be paid exactly the same as you got last month, when the pay run did work.

JPA will be the the final death knell for what was once a great Air Force, brought to its knees, not by guns and missiles and bombs, but by bureaucracy and incompetence and negligence.

:(

Biggus 25th April 2006 07:00

I have spoken to some people who have been able to 'view' their payslip on JPA. This is not rumour, or 'a bloke in a pub told me....' but first hand information. Some aircrew have not received their flying pay for the month, and some aircrew who should not be receiving flying pay (PA spine) have been paid it........!!!

How many months, how much grief, before all this mess is sorted out.....??!!

lippiatt 25th April 2006 07:47

JPa Access
 
How confident are you of being paid on Friday ???!!!!!

Quote from JPA Online 250800 Apr 06

System Acces Plan for Tue 25 Apr will be as follows:

0700-1700 - HR professional users
0700-1700 - Payroll allowed access
1700-2300 - AFPAA - payroll and other technical diagnostics etc

SELF SERVICE USERS WILL BE UNABLE TO LOGIN UNTIL FURHTER NOTICE BLAH BLAH BLAH

If the payrun last week was so good then why do they need access all day today??!!

Baskitt Kase 25th April 2006 08:03


Some aircrew have not received their flying pay for the month...
An unmitigated disaster and shambolic performance undoubtedly, but I have to admit that if the team are working 18 hr days to sort this, I would rather they concentrated initially on getting the basic pay sorted than neglecting that for my flying pay. After all, the basic pay makes up 75% of my take-home and the vast majority of RAF personnel are not in receipt of flying pay. It should all have been sorted before go-live, but given the situation now, I'm glad to see that the people trying to sort the mess (undoubtedly not the same people as caused JPA to be rolled out, just the poor schmucks that have to pick up the pieces) appear to have their priorities correct.

BluntM8 25th April 2006 08:43

Found at http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/De...fPersonnel.htm

The army of Alexander the Great, as it swept across the known world toppling kingdoms and collecting tribute, took its pay clerks and administrators with it. In a back office behind the luxurious tents of the leader and his generals, it's a fair bet there was a scribe bent over an abacus and a clay tablet, making sure the soldiers got their pay, and the spoils of war were shared out fairly.
Why didn't we think of that... I mean, who's ever crashed an abacus?

And then this gem of a quote...


It's all a far cry from clay tablets and the rattling beads of the abacus. Would Alexander have conquered a bigger slice of the world if JPA had been available to his scribes? Probably not.
No, I imagine he wouldn't...

Blunty

Scud-U-Like 25th April 2006 09:01

Inconvenient? Yes. The end of the world? No.

It's not like we've been laid-off overnight or some fat bloke has run off with our pension fund.

Where R We? 25th April 2006 09:11

Just heard an interesting couple of snippets.

There are more than 150 people who haven't been paid their Flying Pay and there are some which have been paid who aren't entitled - eg PA Flt Lts!!

It also seems that Flying pay (according to JPA) is based on PIC and not person, so if you are in a non-FP PIC then you aren't entitled!! :p Might explain why some people have not received their FP!!

I am sure that won't cause some concern...how easy will it be to modify JPA to take this into account?


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