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BEagle 3rd May 2024 16:38

UK to develop hypersonic missiles
 
According to Sky: https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-dev...eport-13124768

Given that the US AGM-183 is 22ft long and weighs 3000kg, if air-launched how would the UK achieve that? Perhaps by going cap in hand to the US to beg for a few of the B1-Bs at the AMARG?

falcon900 3rd May 2024 16:41

Why don’t we go capping hand for the missile and the launch platform? A well trodden path and likely to produce a quicker solution and possibly even cheaper than developing our own.

TURIN 3rd May 2024 16:44

To ensure we don't end up with a skills gap? We need to be able to produce our own independent military industrial complex. Sovereignty is very popular at the moment.

Lonewolf_50 3rd May 2024 18:09

Keeping your defense industrial base warm is a good idea. The peace dividend is long over.

beardy 3rd May 2024 18:27


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11648486)
According to Sky: https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-dev...eport-13124768

Given that the US AGM-183 is 22ft long and weighs 3000kg, if air-launched how would the UK achieve that? Perhaps by going cap in hand to the US to beg for a few of the B1-Bs at the AMARG?

Perhaps Airlander have bid?

Video Mixdown 3rd May 2024 18:37


Originally Posted by falcon900 (Post 11648491)
Why don’t we go capping hand for the missile and the launch platform? A well trodden path and likely to produce a quicker solution and possibly even cheaper than developing our own.

Because the UK is not the US and has very different defence needs. Developing a weapon tailored for use by UK (and similar) assets makes sense on a number of levels. Buying a few antique US bombers and a missile that doesn’t seem to work would be foolish.

Ninthace 3rd May 2024 19:02


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 11648540)
<<snip>> The peace dividend is long over.

If only the UK Treasury knew that - they have been taking it as an annual saving ever since the wall came down.

rattman 3rd May 2024 21:56


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11648555)
Because the UK is not the US and has very different defence needs. Developing a weapon tailored for use by UK (and similar) assets makes sense on a number of levels. Buying a few antique US bombers and a missile that doesn’t seem to work would be foolish.

UK was originally part of the Hifire/Scifire program that developed into HACM (hypersonic attack cruise missile) thats being developed operate from super hornets and larger. I UK could easily rejoin this program under AUKUS pillar 2 if they chose to. But look to be choosing to go their own way. UK has every right to blow their money on their projects

I dont think getting an existing missile putting on more boosters and airlaunching from a typhoon is all that difficult for the UK to pull off. It would be a hypersonic missile in the same way Kinzhal is.


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