“Latin allows we lawyers, judges etc. to keep you in a constant state of confusion until the cell door slams shut behind you!”. (. a lawyer told me that.)
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Originally Posted by stevef
(Post 11629854)
Just read this on the Internet:
Latin can improve your English vocabulary. Deepen your communication skills. Enhance critical thinking. Give you a new perspective on language. Sounds like encyclopaedia salesmen patter to me. Has anyone who was force-fed Latin at school actually found any benefit in it? Even Kiswahili must be more useful to learn with an estimated 200 million first & second language speakers, rather than the odd Catholic priest mystifying his congregation with something that hasn't been widely spoken for over 1500 years. :confused: IV, as the Roman golfer shouted. I also reckon there were transferrable skills when I started to program as again there is a grammar and a syntax, |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11629895)
What I want to know.
How does anybody know how to speak Latin? We had [I had briefly] two masters who pronounced the weird words differently. And some Met. folk say strartus and some straytus. |
Ninthace - was it not ‘Gallia omnia divisia est in partes tres’ - much more difficult to translate grammatically under my very demanding Latin master [who was ex-RAF, “five horrid years” in India in WW II - we became great friends when he retired] - but of course Caesar did not have the benefit of Kennedy’s wisdom back then ... and I agree as to the later benefits of the tortures we endured at school, I still reach for my precious Gepp and Haig Latin dictionary now and then when I want to fix a meaning exactly.
Beags - thanks for your mention of ‘causas’ .. the proud motto of Sheffield University is “Rerum cognoscere causas” ... which is of course open to the most widespead abuse ... but my favorite translation remains as “to go and see her old man”. Reverend mods, top marks for preserving these wildly offtopic remarks here - I had no idea how erudite was the community of my former fellow aviators - they are fun, and a bit of fun is most welcome now - thank you. [but please please let us not get on to Chaucher! ] [Oh, and hat-tip to albatross also for that very astute comment today] |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11629895)
How does anybody know how to speak Latin?
To be honest, the Latin sounded a lot like Italian to me. Allegedly, among the Romance languages, Romanian is the closest to Latin of any of them, but how far it drifted I can't say. |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11628574)
Longer since I studied it, got the O-level in '65! Took 2 attempts.
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I don't speak Italian, but my degree is in classics. So when I go there I speak Latin with a world-war-two-film Italian accent. They love it. Use ut and the subjunctive and they swoon.
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Originally Posted by dogle
(Post 11629990)
Ninthace - was it not ‘Gallia omnia divisia est in partes tres’
Caesar’s Gallic Wars |
Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements
(Post 11630001)
Bloody hell ... it was still new then!
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11629895)
What I want to know.
How does anybody know how to speak Latin? We had [I had briefly] two masters who pronounced the weird words differently. And some Met. folk say strartus and some straytus. My Father & step Mother had Italian friends who would drive to London every summer in their ancient Beetle. My stepmother spoke fluent Italian and the women would chatter away merrily but my Father and the husband would converse in Latin. |
Maybe go to Latin America?
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11630070)
No, not in my version but if you don’t believe me
Caesar’s Gallic Wars |
Originally Posted by Barksdale Boy
(Post 11630275)
Divisia?
Non possum esse reus aliorum errorum or words to that effect :ok: |
Oh Lord - 'ut and the subjunctive'! One of the real horrors of Latin. Along with gerunds and gerundives, ablative absolutes, 'A, ab, absque, coram, de palam, cum, and ex or e...' and other grammatical tortures inflicted on me at prep school whilst I was covertly reading 'The Airfix Magazine'....
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Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 11630358)
Oh Lord - 'ut and the subjunctive'! One of the real horrors of Latin. Along with gerunds and gerundives, ablative absolutes, 'A, ab, absque, coram, de palam, cum, and ex or e...' and other grammatical tortures inflicted on me at prep school whilst I was covertly reading 'The Airfix Magazine'....
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When I was introduced to Latin, mensa (table) was used to teach the endings for nouns of the first declension, which I remember to this day!
I found the vocative case mysterious. How often did Romans want to talk to a table? |
Sometimes, when I have been teaching, it has felt like I was talking to a room full of tables.
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At this point it would be respectful to remember the fate of the young lady who married a Latin scholar. When she asked him to Conjugate, he Declined.
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How did she construe that?
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11630465)
Sometimes, when I have been teaching, it has felt like I was talking to a room full of tables.
Mog |
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