Could the Boom Overture have a Military Application?
There is a long history of civilian aircraft being adapted to military roles. P8 Poseidon, Wedgetail AWACS, A330 MRT, KC10, KC767 etc etc
Could the Boom Ovature with it's M1.7 cruise speed and fairly long range work as a missile truck. The P8 has 2 x internal weapons bays. The Ovature could have a similar arangement to carry 30 or so long range cruise missles. Sort of like a low cost B1 sucessor. Thoughts anyone? |
It will not get built, so no...
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Surely they still have the same issues as Concorde had? Noise and the boom. Calling your company Boom rather draws attention to it. As to military applications, would it be stealthy enough?
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11618324)
Surely they still have the same issues as Concorde had? Noise and the boom. Calling your company Boom rather draws attention to it. As to military applications, would it be stealthy enough? It’s Boom Overture by the way
Firstly they are using the Nasa research on quiet sonic booms, also FAA are looking at changes to sonic boom moratorium and general noise conditions to make these style aircraft more practical as part of the concept has them as more fuel efficient than current jets |
Originally Posted by nomorecatering
(Post 11618172)
There is a long history of civilian aircraft being adapted to military roles. P8 Poseidon, Wedgetail AWACS, A330 MRT, KC10, KC767 etc etc
Could the Boom Ovature with it's M1.7 cruise speed and fairly long range work as a missile truck. The P8 has 2 x internal weapons bays. The Ovature could have a similar arangement to carry 30 or so long range cruise missles. Sort of like a low cost B1 sucessor. Thoughts anyone? |
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11618478)
My thoughts are it's pretty depressing that on seeing a proposed new civilian airliner your first reaction is to ask how we can use it for war.
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They are not only building their own supersonic airliner, but the engines as well.
I can't help but think that if there were real money to be made in this market Airbus or Boeing would be developing such a thing. How many supersonic aircraft are there with "podded" engines? Never mind ones without reheat. I can think of a few from the 1950s, and that's about it. |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11618324)
Surely they still have the same issues as Concorde had? Noise and the boom. Calling your company Boom rather draws attention to it. As to military applications, would it be stealthy enough?
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Not sure how an aerodynamic look alike will do that - but one lives in hope. It reminds me of an enlarged B-58 Hustler
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Hard to see how - given that drag increases as velocity squared - they can make an SST that has seat-mile fuel burn competitive with subsonic while going twice as fast. Mach 1.7 is too slow for any of the high efficiency 'exotic' jet engine philosophies to work (e.g. RAM/SCRAM jets), so unless there is some huge revolution in propulsion, they're still looking at low bypass turbofans...
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Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11618436)
the concept has them as more fuel efficient than current jets
And those civilian aircraft mentioned as examples in the initial post were all derivatives of proven airframes. If the Overture is built, and is operated by enough carriers for long enough, then we could reasonably discuss possible military uses. If you like the looks of this aircraft, buy a scale model and admire it on your desk. I'd wager that will be the only reminder a decade from now. |
If (very big if) this thing ever gets to being a certified airliner it is because DOD would have paid for it.
Not sure what value they would see in it (not saying it is not interesting but the cost will be astronomic). So yes if it becomes reality there will be military use. |
Just out of curiosity, will that be Mach 1.7 "in a dive" or in straight and level flight? (One would hope the latter ...)
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Originally Posted by magyar_flyer
(Post 11618720)
If (very big if) this thing ever gets to being a certified airliner it is because DOD would have paid for it.
Not sure what value they would see in it (not saying it is not interesting but the cost will be astronomic). So yes if it becomes reality there will be military use. |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11618765)
Just out of curiosity, will that be Mach 1.7 "in a dive" or in straight and level flight? (One would hope the latter ...)
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There was an excellent Aviation Week “Check Six” podcast about a year ago discussing the numerous challenges this project faces. The panel also had quite a bit to say (not in a good way) of how this aircraft is being marketed. Worth the listen.
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Meanwhile, back on planet earth……
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Military applications for a large supersonic transport aircraft - rapid transport for SF teams in crisis situations?
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'Boom' demonstrator has flown, with the military interested. They must have read Davef68's post!
https://www.twz.com/air/booms-xb-1-s...s-to-the-skies |
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