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Mogwi 4th Feb 2024 07:47


Originally Posted by MG (Post 11589764)
And it seems to be that some companies are disappearing from the list. I guess it’s a combination of tougher trading and reduced visibility for those entitled - nothing like a war or pandemic to raise the public awareness.

Like Laithwaites☹️

Mog

212man 4th Feb 2024 09:52


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11588957)
Junior Civil Servants do not usually get OBEs unless it is merited - senior CSs on the other hand. Even then, it is quite a small % of the total no,

Generally for carrying out roles that aren’t in their public job title!

76fan 4th Feb 2024 10:34


Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim (Post 11589627)
Lost mine and can I get a replacement?

Sad to say anyone can buy one on eBay

PICKS135 4th Feb 2024 15:28

Apply for replacement here

https://www.gov.uk/apply-medal-or-veterans-badge

Ninthace 4th Feb 2024 16:47

17 some odd signatures yesterday, 17 some odd and a few more today. Clearly exposure to Jet Blast has not had a huge, or perhaps any, effect. :ugh:

beamer 4th Feb 2024 18:35

There seem to be umpteen ‘medals’ up for sale these days which are, I presume, only to be worn on the right breast as they are not ‘official’ awards. It always make me smile when I see a chest full of Jubilee medals !

BEagle 4th Feb 2024 18:40


It always make me smile when I see a chest full of Jubilee medals!
But it still makes me annoyed that so few Queen's Silver Jubilee medals were awarded in 1977, despite personnel being within the qualifying criteria.

Finningley Boy 4th Feb 2024 18:56


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11588486)
If you feel that these losses are a direct result of the Cold War, then perhaps there is a case for them to receive a medal. It is not an argument for everyone who was in the armed forces during that period to receive a medal.

There are of course, the brush fire wars on the periphery. Korea, Malaya, Cyprus, Borneo, South Yemen (Aden and Radfan Mountains) then of course, Northern Ireland which spanned from 1969 to well past the end. And of course, the Falklands. There are various moments, which affected those in uniform at the time, albeit you can argue came to nothing, but. On top of all for us Brits were; Operation Plainfare, the Hungarian airlift, the Cuban Missile Crisis, constant challenges to flights up and down the Berlin Corridors resulting in the "Jackpine" operation to be ready to engage the Soviet/East German Air Force should thet stick to their guns (so to speak) over escorting RAF/USAF/FAF flights in and out of the air corridors. From my own personal experience, for all its worth, there was the crisis over Poland and General jarowzelski in 1981. Not all cold war warriors were involved in all of these, sometimes actual war footing campaigns, sometimes touch and go moments only. However, there were those who, for example, served in both world wars who never heard a shot fired in anger, but picked up the, the 14-20 service medal, Victory medal, defence medal and the 1939 to 1945 war service medal. There was an argument at the end of the second world war between the some senior officers and I forget the actual name of the department (but I believe the war medals commission), that RAF personnel on operational stations during the war from which aircraft operated against the enemy, should have been recognised with a campaign star. MRAF Sir William Sholto Douglas was one such officer.

FB:)

PS I forgot to mention Belize and Rhodesia

Ninthace 4th Feb 2024 18:57


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11590196)
But it still makes me annoyed that so few Queen's Silver Jubilee medals were awarded in 1977, despite personnel being within the qualifying criteria.

Our unit got 2, The admiral had one and his ADC got the other. :bored:

langleybaston 4th Feb 2024 23:30


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11590209)
Our unit got 2, The admiral had one and his ADC got the other. :bored:

RHIP dear sir. RHIP.

langleybaston 4th Feb 2024 23:36

A Chinese proverb:

A good reputation endureth for ever.

The many bare chested among us know what out friends did, we know what we did, we know what our families put up with, we know that we won.
And we know what wind and piss looks like when we see it.

Haraka 5th Feb 2024 04:36

Beags.
The buck flowing downhill ,by the time it got to my unit level in 1977 there was just one medal for 60 guys .for me to nominate.
My oldest hairy with a (then comparative) chestful going back to Suez times had proclaimed in the tea bar that it was all a disgrace and that HE for one would never wear it
So it was no prioblem to nomimate the potential incumbent :).

Nolongerin 5th Feb 2024 06:00

On my Sqn, the two allotted Jubilee Medals were given to a Cpl and a SAC who were a bit ‘rebellious’. I think it was meant to encourage them to conform a little better.

The rest of the Sqn looked on in bewilderment.

BEagle 5th Feb 2024 08:30

The qualifying criteria for the 1977 Queens Silver Jubilee medal were that you had to have served for 5 years between 1952-1977. However, only about 30000 were actually issued in the UK and as Haraka and others have indicated, the haphazard distribution amongst service personnel raised ill-feeling....

I'd sooner that wrong was righted retrospectively than some Cold War Veteran's medal was struck.

oxenos 5th Feb 2024 10:00


I'd sooner that wrong was righted retrospectively than some Cold War Veteran's medal was struck.
That was all nearly 50 years ago. As with the proposed "Cold War Medal" what on earth is the point, and what would anyone do with the thing.

NutLoose 5th Feb 2024 10:45


Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim (Post 11589627)
Lost mine and can I get a replacement?

Ebay...

melmothtw 5th Feb 2024 11:01


RAF personnel on operational stations during the war from which aircraft operated against the enemy, should have been recognised with a campaign star.
Does that extend to dependents living on those bases? Asking for a friend.

MPN11 5th Feb 2024 11:04


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11590209)
Our unit got 2, The admiral had one and his ADC got the other. :bored:

My wife, an ADC, was supposed to get one, but then the Stn decided to give it to a wg car who was leaving the service.

ShyTorque 5th Feb 2024 13:54

My onetime Wg Cdr Boss was awarded an OBE. We had all worked hard for it.

Not surprising that it was instantly renamed “Other Bu&&ers’ Efforts”

Union Jack 5th Feb 2024 14:05


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11590209)
Our unit got 2, The admiral had one and his ADC got the other. :bored:

I trust that his Flag Lieutenant wasn't too upset...:rolleyes: Too long since you were in dark blue!:D

More seriously, from records in the Naval Secretary's Office I believe that all officers of Flag rank, and all Commanding Officers of ships and establishments, received the SJM automatically.

Jack


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