The Wigston Legacy
 

https://news.sky.com/video/men-descr...edure-12935006

Wigston's appalling tenure as CAS seems to be the gift that keeps on giving.

It did amuse me slightly that the individual that had him mum speak on his behalf wanted to be a drone pilot.........

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Oh come on, it isn't that bad.

He'll be remember for giving us all those DLE courses, ideally "WfH Friday" whilst playing the videos on mute, with x2 speed..

The Wigston Legacy - a man who did more damage to the RAF than Herman Goering!

The interviews are interesting because pertinent questions were not asked.

Were they suitable at CBAT for pilot?
Did they pass OASC and were strong enough candidates for pilot?
Were they selected for pilot after CBAT and OASC but were timexed due to others being fast tracked?

This news clip makes a lot of suppositions without backing it up with facts. Sometimes, people just aren’t good enough and perhaps this gives those people a chance to blame this stupid temporary policy.

my understanding these were all OR applicants, most of whom had applied for J1 facing roles.

What I find extraordinary, although maybe I shouldn't, is that the RAF has admitted that it committed an unlawful act - it broke the law.

But because an internal MOD (Army lead I believe) inquiry didn't point the finger at anyone specifically nobody will be held to account. A classic MOD "nothing to see here, move on" approach. How about you keep having inquiries until someone finally decides who was/were responsible.

if you break the law you break the law, it doesn't matter whether you INTENDED to or not (following incorrect advice for example). You are ultimately responsible for your own actions.

QED...

Apologies ATG, we may be speaking a different language. The Sky report talks about 3 males going for Pilot, not J1 (admin) roles. If true, then my previous point stands. If I’ve got the wrong end of the stick, pse let me know.
I did laugh at the resilience, or lack of, from the potential Protector Pilot who got his mummy to complain. Perhaps this is the reason the policy was implemented, white males don’t cut it any more 😉

Indeed. I’m reminded of the oft seen statement “John was going to be a fighter pilot, but his eyesight wasn’t good enough”

The Wigston Legacy.

Come on, let’s not be too harsh. After all he did give us a ‘snazzy’ new uniform….oh, err hang on :eek:

And what about the new improved junior rank nomenclature… ‘Air Specialist One’ really trips off the tongue…:}

And he did cheer us all up with his lovely Christmas messages… :*

so yeah, he should definitely retire on that massive pension with no questions asked. He’s earned it:ok:

I had that ambition, but short-sighted! And then ended up failing Flying Grading with the FAA as a putative Helo pilot despite my PPL In retrospect, especially reading this Forum and others, there was no way I was going to cut it in any pilot role. At least I was a competent ATCO and senior officer (IMHO!).

The Met Office gained a weather guesser as a result of two slight problems:
Almost into Dartmouth until a very late discovery of slight green/blue colour blindness, almost into aircraft industry with a sandwich apprentice/ university place until the narrowest of fails at Pure [or was it Applied?] maths A level.
Next job bus conductor on a 5B bright red double decker, Brighton and Hove Omnibus Company.

Looked good as "previous occupation" on CV. But I might have been a retired admiral, just think.

Ah, LB, all those “only ifs” that shaped our lives! Still, not complaining about how it turned out in the end!

Did the Wigston directive on recruitment come from him, or higher up?

The broader question is perhaps what would we, as individuals, do regarding an order received which was either illegal or plainly injurious to the service?

As a youngish PSO MoD I did indeed refuse an order, on the grounds that it shifted responsibiity on to me without giving me the authority to direct matters. I was punished for it by losing a plum posting. The predicted cock-up happened very rapidly. I was, of course, never headed to dizzy heights like Director General Met Office.

We KNOW that illegal discrimination took place during the selection of ORs, mainly due to the courage of one Gp Cpt and unusually an inquiry admitting it.

We do not know if there was a similar scenario regarding Officers and more specifically pilots.

I’m personally a little concerned that it MIGHT have done. As a first step the publication of CBAT and OASC scores compared to the number of applicants and their diversity may put this to bed.

RAF comment so far sticks to the line that all successful candidates met the minimum standard. It had failed to say the 40 that were selected were the best 40!

And the acronym sounds like Kryton trying to say Asshole... ASO

the RAF (and RN and Army) select their ORs on a cab rank principle: the first person the reach the minimum score is the first person to enter training. If you’re second in line, yet score twice as well, you’re still second to start training. The illegal action was not about picking un-qualified individuals, it was using race alone to move them up the queue.

officers are selected by score (either combined or individual). The scores are done by branch, which reflects the numbers of spaces available in training: in the RN joining as a logistics officer requires a significantly higher AIB score than being a pilot. We have previously lowered the “pass mark” to fill our submariner warfare officer - especially when it was a male British national only branch.

I did my application via Biggin Hill; 4 days - hangar, leadership, interviews, tests et al. Pulled up on the medical. Failed - accept not everyone makes it, move on. 35yrs Engineer. Happy.