One of them wss "Home Office’s director of detention escorting service in immigration enforcement"
He is named in manuy online articles relating to various sites and failures around the country.

Broadcasters and veterans try to stop home of ex-Dambusters HQ becoming refugee detention centre | Daily Mail Online

Here, vindication.

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Cheap shots and generalities about civil servants.
The scientific CS was and is nothing like these clumsy caricatures.
As for sacking, very possible, I got rid of several, sometimes at request of Staish

Faldingworth was a nuclear weapons maintenance base. The Thors were based at RAF Hemswell. Incidentally the Scampton station shield showed a bow and arrow, the arrow was at the same angle to the bowstring as was the runway orientation in relation to the new portion of the A15, the string representing the old straight-as-a-die Roman road. The devise was in Latin, translated as "An armed man is not attacked". Don't tell the US NRA.

And no doubt for their trouble, the cancel culture mob will brand them heartless "Neo Nazis" for trying to raise the historical profile of this place.

Always the first line of defence(attack) by the cancel culture, but to a man/woman, not one involved in the resistance to Braverman's plan strikes as the sort you would instantly place in such category. Another way to see this more clearly, and dispassionately, if someone lived in a house where when they looked out the bedroom window each morning they viewed a wooded meadow. One day the site survey team turns up to start recording their calculations, next it soon comes to note that the place is going to be replaced by an Amazon Distribution Centre? Or a Vehicle Recovery and Examination Centre, I know something about the features and characteristics of the latter, all very much necessary to the tapestry of modern living. But you wouldn't want one to turn up on your doorstep suddenly. In this case, an historic heritage site, within such an historic tourist area, faces the same sweep aside destruction by something necessary, but which would be incompatible and which could easily be placed elsewhere.

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The problem with the argument there FB is that an Amazon Distribuition Centre, or a Vehicle Recovery and Examination Centre would be subject to normal planning applications and the local poulation would have the ability to object.
Both would be far more acceptable than 1500+ single males, of unkown origin, wandering around your garden.

There was mention that the HO would be able to develope MOD land without ANY discussion with the locals and no need to follow usual planning rules.

Of course, mind you, consultation with the Hoi Polloi in order to seek the approval of same appears increasingly to be a formal exercise. The Mayor of London likes to be seen as a man of the people, when the people disagree, he carries on regardless. What I can't understand about the Home Office, is did they really turn everything upside down in their search for a suitable location for this new tent city? How on earth did Scampton get picked? Especially given the investment in its long term future which would at the very least preserve what has to be regarded as a sacred plot. This is truly an historic visitor attraction, if they went ahead and transformed the OM into a Hotel, it surly, with the right publicity, be a wise investment.

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Surely the place to put it is Manston, handy for the coast, so you could more or less land them directly from the sea and being the lorry park for the Channel crossing bottlenecks, you could ship them back out the same way some of them would have arrived by, to whence they came from. :p ;)

just get it up and running again if it isn’t.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-63456015

Already suggested at #40.

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Reading Guy Walters tweet, it strikes me that some people think Nigel Farage is a criminal at large. Although I would agree with one thing, his name on the ticket will only get the counter-opinion inflamed because Farage has offered his public support. The best thing Mr Farage can do is to back the Asylum Centre plans, it would cause a good deal of confusion if nothing else!;)

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I see the arguments why Linton on Ouse and Scampton are inappropriate are now migrating to Weathersfield. Everyone wants something doing as long as it’s somewhere else, guess I can’t blame the locals.

I don't think it is a case of blaming the locals for fighting back, more a case of the Government being deaf to EVERYONE's concerns here. THE major issue at every site is that the guests were not in secure accommodation. The Home Office could not guarantee their background, hence evryone was justifiably worried. Genuine asylum seekers with a real need to be here, and who would be welcome here, should fully understand our need to validate who they were. Once that is done they can be integrated into our society. Without any assurances then our security should come first. 1500+ SINGLE males of unknown background, literally dumped into a small village ( any village) is totally wrong. Once the idiots in power see why folk kick off then the sooner we may actually achieve an acceptable solution - until then, I support ANY community pushing back.

This is exactly it. I live in one of the 'Springline' villages at the bottom of the hill from Scampton, no one is concerned about genuine asylum seekers. This is about illegal immigrants, 1500 fighting aged males from the countries we've recently been involved in, wandering around up to no good. Alarmist? Possibly, but it's what people are worried about.

Surely, the place to put it is Sangate!

FB, at the meetings at at Linton with the Home Office we asked how they managed to determine the "guests" were safe. They told us that they will have been through a rigorous checking process. We then asked "HOW, considering you have just told us most destroy or throw away any documents to aid their asylum claim?" - stunned silence!

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I think this is it, a mixture of ineffectual timidity, gutless incompetence, utter disregard for the long term impact of allowing the problem to expand and a high minded assumption that the hoi polloi can be dismissed with absurd reassurances based on contempt for same.

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Whitehall is acting with an arrogance which is pissing off people within and without the political chain. I gather that, for example, the Novotel in Ipswich was sequestered at less than 48 hours notice. The staff had to be be fired becasue Serco employees were put in. It was previously the main business hotel for central Ipswich so all the associated dining and hosiptality spending spillover disappeared overnight. The local Council was powerless to intervene. This is building into a pressure cooker issue.

The decision to use Scampton is spectacularly tin-eared.

Pretty sure that if you're booking a plane ticket with a passport that requires a visa to enter the UK, you have to present that visa or evidence of it on check in or you won't be boarded. The fact is, there are no safe and legal ways to claim asylum in this country - the government could process the applications in Calais if it wanted to, but make a political decision not to.

FWIW, I wouldn't support Scampton being used as a detention centre, but I think it's a mistake to conflate the fate of that historical base with immigration. They don't want to be there anymore than you or anyone else wants them to be there.

Without sounding like the national front, racist and all of that bullsh*t, that is part of the problem, it's also the hidden costs, firing the staff means it is possible some of those staff may lose the roof over their heads and become homeless, therefore hard working low paid hospitality staff who were born and bred here are being ejected possibly onto the streets as some live in, to put a roof over the head of someone who has never paid a days worth of taxes into the UK, and in all likelihood shouldn't be here.
It is a sad state of affairs when the UK cannot house and help our homeless who are forced to live on the streets, while we give full board and lodgings to those that have no right in most cases to be in this Country.
There are even pensioners that would welcome three meals a day and a warm hotel room over the winters months.

The secondary cost is possibly a hidden cost, in that these people fired through no fault of their own may well end up on benefits, or should I say those that managed to keep a roof over their heads and an address, those that can't are much more unfortunate as i believe they cannot claim without an address.

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I think Gruinard is uninhabited. Might fit the bill. Just be careful when you're digging!!

That's a bit misleading, you make it sound as though the hotel had no choice in the matter

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It won't be out of a sense of humanity, it would be interesting to know what the Hotel operator is being paid against what their usual tur over would be for the period in question?

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Is there any local reaction, for or against?
Silence would confound a few people.

Expat, I was given to understand it was involuntary by the Leader of Suffolk Council.

Plenty of media entries, including statements by the owners / directors that the choice was theirs. The council did object and obtained an injunction which was subsequently overturned.

But again, Expat,

The Novotel Hotel will be well remunerated for their largess. Or are saying that this is a purely Christian act of selflessness on their part?

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LOL, no of course not! Simple business decision on their part. Guaranteed occupancy, guaranteed payment - what's not to like! (Oh, and as you seem to suggest, a bit of moral authority (in their eyes)).

They are look8ng at listing scampton Officers mess that will screw them up

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/n...s-mess-8289203

LBC (radio) are on the case now mentioning it at least once or twice an hour; no mention of the fact the place is practically falling down though or the effort (ie money) which will have to be spent getting it into a fit state for habitation.!

I hope that the 'Wright Memorial' OM bar doors have been preserved!

I wonder if they considered Halton.
A lot of the accomodation is empty now and units are slowly moving out; the airfield is down to close by the end of 2027 (that's the latest I heard anyway) but the camp area which is a mile away could close earlier and much of the living quarters are in fairly good condition.
Henlow likewise appears to be 'on the brink' of becoming empty and once again, the living quarters are still in use.

It's not all quite so black and white, is it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsJT39oX...jpg&name=large

No doubt we abandoned many who "assisted" us so if he can substantiate his identity, he should be allowed to stay. I know what you'll say........"he disposed of his identity papers." Well then we have a problem. What on earth is wrong with making sure these unknowns are not allowed to wander about freely. If they are given safe and secure accommodation, what's the problem? Would you arrive in another country seeking asylum and then misbehave......I'm damn sure I wouldn't. I'd be too bloody grateful. Why the hell do we have former servicemen and no doubt women who aren't extended the same "courtesy"? Why are some of our own serving personel virtually living in squalor? Let's start taking care of our own before trying to make life better for god knows how many who often, show no gratitude or allegiance to this country or our way of life. Charity begins at home.....period!

BBC article on-line identifies him by name and picture, using the same picture the Independent used without pixilation. Done by Inayatulhaq Yasini and Swaminathan Natarajanne on 31 Aug 2022. May explain his presence in the Channel, or a red-herring article; there may be more to this case than meets the eye.....

Thats not the same picture in the BBC piece as on the newspaper cover?

Indeed, the BBC pilot is flying a Black Hawk while the Independent pilot is flying a Grand Caravan. Not the same person.

Anyone who assisted HM or other allied forces in Afghanistan shouldn't be threatened with being sent to Rwanda. You'd think their asylum process would be rather more straight forward and with a positive outcome which you could bank on. It would appear that administrative incompetence is the only conclusion one can arrive at, I just hope this kind of cart before the horse nonsense isn't a routine occurrence, but I'm that sure.

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