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Indeed ST!
How many of us did actually get our full leave quota, who were seen as " Key Players" ( often until F1369 time, of course :) ) |
IPT leaders now had their own T&S budget, and routinely blew it in a couple of months by sending the world and his dog to minor meetings, on overnighters |
Originally Posted by Haraka
(Post 11393421)
Indeed ST!
How many of us did actually get our full leave quota, who were seen as " Key Players" ( often until F1369 time, of course :) ) In one post I had an official Deputy, experienced, trained, fully able and needing a stint as a boss for his CV. My line manager formally approved my taking minimal summer leave one year in exchange for four weeks touring Europe the next. You guessed. Change of line manager, who refused to honour the arrangement and was "surprised and disappointed" that I should consider it. The fallout included my deputy suffering a substantial delay for promotion on grounds of lack of relevant experience. |
Originally Posted by Haraka
(Post 11393421)
Indeed ST!
How many of us did actually get our full leave quota, who were seen as " Key Players" ( often until F1369 time, of course :) ) Annoyingly, some staff seemed to live a charmed life when it came to “perks” like leave. I wasn’t amongst them. Having taken my option at my upcoming 38 point, my previously impeccable but final F1369 report was altered to include a “2” out of 9 for loyalty because the small minded, peevish Staish was apparently so annoyed that I chose to leave during his watch, albeit perfectly iaw the terms of my commission, rather than take up the RAF’s offer of Specialist Aircrew. |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 11393491)
Annoyingly, some staff seemed to live a charmed life when it came to “perks” like leave. I wasn’t amongst them.
Having taken my option at my upcoming 38 point, my previously impeccable but final F1369 report was altered to include a “2” out of 9 for loyalty because the small minded, peevish Staish was apparently so annoyed that I chose to leave during his watch, albeit perfectly iaw the terms of my commission, rather than take up the RAF’s offer of Specialist Aircrew. I ask because after many years my "fitted for further promotion" dropped from Yes to No on the grounds that I was soon to be in my final year. I pointed out to 2RO that this would be a strange unjustified blight on my CV and the report was changed to "fitted" with a few explanatory caveats. Not that I wanted another job, but pride was involved. 41 years' hard labour is enough for anyone! |
41 years' hard labour is enough for anyone! |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11393517)
Excuse ignorance, but does not the RAF have a right of appeal to a second reporting officer senior to the 1RO?
I ask because after many years my "fitted for further promotion" dropped from Yes to No on the grounds that I was soon to be in my final year. I pointed out to 2RO that this would be a strange unjustified blight on my CV and the report was changed to "fitted" with a few explanatory caveats. Not that I wanted another job, but pride was involved. 41 years' hard labour is enough for anyone! As far as an appeal was concerned, I didn’t even consider making one; it was during my last few weeks of service and had no relevance to my subsequent civilian employment. However, as I stated earlier, after my resettlement course I subsequently took some pleasure in sending him my claim for 28 days rate ones from one of the most expensive cities on foreign shores. In an envelope, marked “Personal, for…” |
Having taken my option at my upcoming 38 point, my previously impeccable but final F1369 report was altered to include a “2” out of 9 for loyalty because the small minded, peevish Staish was apparently so annoyed that I chose to leave during his watch, albeit perfectly iaw the terms of my commission, rather than take up the RAF’s offer of Specialist Aircrew. 6 months later the Highly Loyal Gp Capt grabbed redundancy with both hand - and bu88er the loyalty. |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 11393491)
Annoyingly, some staff seemed to live a charmed life when it came to “perks” like leave. I wasn’t amongst them.
Having taken my option at my upcoming 38 point, my previously impeccable but final F1369 report was altered to include a “2” out of 9 for loyalty because the small minded, peevish Staish was apparently so annoyed that I chose to leave during his watch, albeit perfectly iaw the terms of my commission, rather than take up the RAF’s offer of Specialist Aircrew. Once this was confirmed, in goes the escape route application for a posting....however, such was the malice directed at anybody who didn't serve their sentence...the minimum term was about 3 years, some being very happy to convert this to life, and after being "advised" to retract my posting request, they produced something called an "X" annotation, never heard of this before, and, oh look, as you are "M.U. trained," off you go to 71 MU....who were genuinely annoyed, because, the Gulag had also dropped my assessments ...in the space of about two months. . They did the same to at least three other people who wanted to get back into the RAF...rather than clock on / have monthly haircut parades in the hangar / along with pickaxe guard....which, came round " on a more than regular basis" for those of us who had made it clear we didn't join for any of the above reasons . You might have thought representing the RAF in the Inter Services gliding would have been looked on favourably....not a cat in hells chance as three of us discovered ...quite the reverse in fact ! As for CS claims, an individual I took over from kindly told me what I could claim for when I attended conferences etc as he, it seemed, felt it essential he attended as many as possible. Given these conferences / meetings were of no use, or value, to me, or the recipients thereafter, I smiled... nicely (ish)....and ignored his advice. I understand, after he left, an audit of his travels and claims was "revealing ". ... |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11393525)
Squeezing the seaweed out on the line? :O
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I always thought it was loose change jangling in the trouser pockets…
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 11393615)
I always thought it was loose change jangling in the trouser pockets…
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 11393574)
You were far from alone here. HM Gulag St Athan...applied, and accepted for, 22 years, which meant you had to be fit and qualified for, further promotion.
Once this was confirmed, in goes the escape route application for a posting....however, such was the malice directed at anybody who didn't serve their sentence...the minimum term was about 3 years, some being very happy to convert this to life, and after being "advised" to retract my posting request, they produced something called an "X" annotation, never heard of this before, and, oh look, as you are "M.U. trained," off you go to 71 MU....who were genuinely annoyed, because, the Gulag had also dropped my assessments ...in the space of about two months. . They did the same to at least three other people who wanted to get back into the RAF...rather than clock on / have monthly haircut parades in the hangar / along with pickaxe guard....which, came round " on a more than regular basis" for those of us who had made it clear we didn't join for any of the above reasons . You might have thought representing the RAF in the Inter Services gliding would have been looked on favourably....not a cat in hells chance as three of us discovered ...quite the reverse in fact ! As for CS claims, an individual I took over from kindly told me what I could claim for when I attended conferences etc as he, it seemed, felt it essential he attended as many as possible. Given these conferences / meetings were of no use, or value, to me, or the recipients thereafter, I smiled... nicely (ish)....and ignored his advice. I understand, after he left, an audit of his travels and claims was "revealing ". ... Chap at Odiham was having wifey problems due to the amount of detachments, N Ireland, Belize, Norway etc so was threatening marriage breakdown, desperately he applied for an environmental posting ( remember those ) and he got it, across the airfield to the other Puma Sqn, same sh*t, different badge… needless to say there was one pissed off man and even more pissed off wifey. |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 11393343)
When the RAF brought in something called “NMS” (New Management Strategy), in the mid 1980s, finite financial resources were given to local commanders, rather than being held centrally. Essentially this meant that stations had to manage their own budget. Squadron commanders likewise. Responsibility obviously flows downhill (putting it politely).
Because no extra staff were given to manage budgets (and as far as I recall, no financial training was given to existing personnel) this resulted in a great deal of stress and a large extra workload for local units. Our Squadron boss was seldom seen again - he seemed to spend most of his time in his office, rather than leading from the front. I remember having a number of consecutive leave application passes rejected, meaning that I had been allowed only a small fraction of my leave allocation in one year. After an AOC’s visit two of us were called into the Boss’s office to explain why we had not taken leave; questions had obviously been asked by his staff. I reminded the Boss that it was because he had personally turned down my leave applications, or at least his signature was on them. He seemed rather embarrassed but nothing more was said. I later discovered from a flight lieutenant navigator, who had been given responsibility for vetting certain parts of the unit budget, that leave passes had been turned down because money allocated for leave travel had been overspent! So staff leave was being sacrificed to avoid risking embarrassment over further overspend. It was that same Boss who announced that the unit would henceforth work an early shift and a late shift, to gain maximum usage of the reducing number of aircraft available. After a couple of weeks we all found ourselves working both shifts. More reasons why I took my option to leave. But at least it worked out well for said Boss, he later made Air Rank. As an aside…. I recall being sent from t’HQ to a DA/EA meeting along with my boss. It was in Munich on a Wednesday and was to discuss (for 15 min tops) a seat mod proposal. The most efficient way was LHR to EDDM early morning, with the plan being to get to meeting at around 1100. Our Item was early on the agenda. We would discuss it, put the EA view then, leave and return by air to LHR in the early evening. A day out of the office. Lovely. However comma - Air travel was rejected by senior management …”no money left in the budget”. The meeting, however , was still deemed essential - so as not to hand over MoD decision making to our allies and fellow participants in this multi national project. So, me and my boss, booked out a car (nice big estate) on the Monday morning. Day 1. Drove to Dover, ferry to Calais then night stop to the south east somewhere. Day 2 Drive on to Munich (finding accommodation was a real problem as there was a major ‘Messe’ in town - but we managed just in time to sample the Hoffbrauhaus and have a halbe haxe) Day 3 drive to the meeting to deliver the 15 min input, then leave after lunch. Drive North a bit. Night stop. Day 4. Drive on to Calais and night stop. Day 5, drive to Carefor Hypermarche, in Calais load them big estate with copious quantities of duty free, get on ferry, then drive back to the office. Day 6 (following Monday) submit genuine ‘rate’ claims for two. I have no idea what the total cost was, but it didn’t come out of the air travel budget so NMS was appeased. lovely grub! |
I remember a VSO coming to FY many years ago and telling us that the whole idea of NMS (called at first ERB) was to avoid this different budget idea. He was then embarrassed by being given several examples of how it didn't.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11391081)
But the kicker comes at the end of the article, he may have still been eligible for it.
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Originally Posted by Atlasisrubbish
(Post 11391616)
True. Did you know CEA rules were changed to ensure just Officers and the odd anomaly we’re able to claim? One day the press will find us out!! Lol.
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Originally Posted by Whenurhappy
(Post 11394169)
Rubbish.
With non commissioned nowadays having 3-5 year FADs it's very difficult to get a mobilty certificate signed off these days. There are only a handful of non-comm posts that requires moves in the frequency required for CEA these days. |
Originally Posted by Whenurhappy
(Post 11394169)
Rubbish.
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 11393574)
You were far from alone here. HM Gulag St Athan...applied, and accepted for, 22 years, which meant you had to be fit and qualified for, further promotion.
Once this was confirmed, in goes the escape route application for a posting....however, such was the malice directed at anybody who didn't serve their sentence...the minimum term was about 3 years, some being very happy to convert this to life, and after being "advised" to retract my posting request, they produced something called an "X" annotation, never heard of this before, and, oh look, as you are "M.U. trained," off you go to 71 MU....who were genuinely annoyed, because, the Gulag had also dropped my assessments ...in the space of about two months. . They did the same to at least three other people who wanted to get back into the RAF...rather than clock on / have monthly haircut parades in the hangar / along with pickaxe guard....which, came round " on a more than regular basis" for those of us who had made it clear we didn't join for any of the above reasons . You might have thought representing the RAF in the Inter Services gliding would have been looked on favourably....not a cat in hells chance as three of us discovered ...quite the reverse in fact ! As for CS claims, an individual I took over from kindly told me what I could claim for when I attended conferences etc as he, it seemed, felt it essential he attended as many as possible. Given these conferences / meetings were of no use, or value, to me, or the recipients thereafter, I smiled... nicely (ish)....and ignored his advice. I understand, after he left, an audit of his travels and claims was "revealing ". ... |
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