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NutLoose 1st Dec 2022 16:01

Nose gear failure on USMC F-35B in Japan
 
They were towing it after a emergency/precautionary landing.


https://eurasiantimes.com/down-out-u...its-nose-down/

melmothtw 1st Dec 2022 18:22

Oh dear, seems they left the brakes on and that snapped the nosewheel off.

T28B 1st Dec 2022 19:02

Before someone else says this:
That'll buff out
:)

West Coast 2nd Dec 2022 03:32


Originally Posted by T28B (Post 11340619)
Before someone else says this:
That'll buff out
:)

Awwwwwwww, by the initial lost I had it planned out!



ORAC 2nd Dec 2022 04:38


dctyke 2nd Dec 2022 06:23

Don’t they have undercarriage locks or shear pins in the towing arm?

Krystal n chips 2nd Dec 2022 08:12

I like this bit, taken from the report..

" A recurring occurrence in all three mishaps was that the nose of the F-16s appeared to take the brunt of the damage."

Astute bit of observation and reporting there then....fancy this being the case with the proximity of the nose u/c to, erm, the nose and radome !

NutLoose 2nd Dec 2022 09:50


Originally Posted by dctyke (Post 11340841)
Don’t they have undercarriage locks or shear pins in the towing arm?

Yes it will be on the end connected to the leg, hence the towing eye stayed with the leg. It obviously decided it didn't want to go on, God knows why the driver didn't just stop then and there to find out why.

lefty loose 3rd Dec 2022 10:54

The video appears to show the aircraft being towed in a series of more ‘jerky’ movements until the nose undercarriage retracts and causes the tow bar shear pin to do its job and break at a pre-determined load. The resultant investigation will determine If the cause was a tug problem or aircraft brake problem (possibly intermittent anti-skid) If serviceable aircraft brakes were ‘on’ I doubt the tug would have been able to move the aircraft.

I understand that a geometric mechanical over-centre mechanism positively locks most undercarriages in the down position and most usually on the ground undercarriage ground lock pins are fitted to prevent the mechanism from having any possibility of unlocking.

If the incident required the aircraft to vacate the runway soonest perhaps the haste omitted safety pin(s) being fitted and for anyone riding the brakes that nasty ‘thud’ would have focused the mind they were sitting on a proficient ejection system.

GeeRam 3rd Dec 2022 11:46


Originally Posted by lefty loose (Post 11341564)
The video appears to show the aircraft being towed in a series of more ‘jerky’ movements until the nose undercarriage retracts and causes the tow bar shear pin to do its job and break at a pre-determined load. The resultant investigation will determine If the cause was a tug problem or aircraft brake problem (possibly intermittent anti-skid) If serviceable aircraft brakes were ‘on’ I doubt the tug would have been able to move the aircraft.

By the look of the two continuous black lines from the rear tyres in the OP video, it looks like the rears were well and truely locked on for a good while.

lefty loose 3rd Dec 2022 14:03

Nose gear failure on USMC F-35B in Japan
 
https://quizlet.com/559542040/f-35-t...t-flash-cards/

Extracts

During emergency conditions, what two methods could you apply aircraft brakes

Aircraft tow pedal brake and parking brake switch


Tow mode status indicator cannot show what two colors when performing normal aircraft towing

Yellow or red


Personnel must perform what when aircraft brakes are inoperable

Aircraft towing with disabled tow mode



What two actions should be performed if the brake rider identifies the tow mode status indicator light is yellow during normal operations

Decrease use of brake pedal and parking brake



The Ground Maintenance Motor PumpGMMP

provides hydraulic power on the ground to actuate doors during maintenance mode. It also operates in emergency mode, providing backup hydraulics



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Spaz posted this image awhile back when the RoKAF jet landed gear up. Tow Mode status directly above Parking brake ????

lefty loose 3rd Dec 2022 14:09

Nose gear failure on USMC F-35B in Japan
 
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e751507a9e.jpg
glitch posting previously

SpazSinbad 4th Dec 2022 03:07

Thanks 'lefty loose'. A slightly different F-35 Travelling Sim cockpit: 6ca85c2b-d1cf-434d-b87b-d94abdfea96a-CockpitsimulatorshowsoffthepartiallymadeinUtahF35LightningII fighterjetADAMFORGIEKUTV70.JPG (1600×1200) (amazonaws.com)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7ae0052a1f.jpg

MechEngr 4th Dec 2022 04:04


Originally Posted by lefty loose (Post 11341564)
If serviceable aircraft brakes were ‘on’ I doubt the tug would have been able to move the aircraft.

I expect the tug could haul a loaded C-17 or a C-130 up a slight hill without much trouble. A bit of rubber scraping off an F-35 isn't an impediment.

They should have spent a few extra dollars on tow dollies. Hmm, product improvement proposal idea!

Not as bad as seeing the nose gear (and much more) torn off a C-130 when an airport sort of forgot to tell anyone a 100 foot section of the runway had been excavated in the middle.

<I was one of the engineers for AWADS, CTII, and Tunner cargo transporter. I only did the part users liked, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.>

SpazSinbad 5th Dec 2022 09:44

"Sunday, 2022/12/04: Morning, crane raised F-35 nose. Mechanics lowered front landing gear, and repaired it. While front landing gear off-ground, nose fastened to flat trailer. From 16:00, trailer took over one hour, to slowly tow F-35 to hangar."
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/lnews/okinawa...090021093.html


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