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cynicalint 18th Nov 2022 21:53

RAF completes first flight powered by used cooking oil
 
Daily Telegraph has this article, If you can see the comments, they are worth a read...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...tes-first-net/
RAF Voyager makes milestone 90-minute journey on sustainable aviation fuel, made up of waste-based materials
ByDanielle Sheridan, DEFENCE EDITOR18 November 2022 • 6:00pm RAF Voyager required no modifications to handle the sustainable aviation fuel CREDIT: RAF/Paul CrouchFighter jets could fly on fuel made from old cooking oil after the Royal Air Force completed its first net zero flight.

For 90 minutes, the RAF Voyager flew over Oxfordshire powered purely by 100 per cent sustainable aviation fuel.

The flight, which took place on Wednesday and replicated an air-to-air refuelling sortie, was the first time that a military aircraft of its size, or any aircraft in the UK, had completed such a feat.

RAF Voyager required no modifications to handle the sustainable aviation fuel.

A defence source told The Telegraph that if the RAF could replicate aviation turbine fuel, a form of paraffin that all jet engines run on, “then it could work on future fighter jets”.

“That would be part of the plan for making the RAF carbon neutral in due course,” they added.The RAF Voyager lands at RAF Brize Norton after flying over Oxfordshire powered purely by sustainable aviation fuel CREDIT: Andrew Matthews/PA

The flight took place the day before the Chancellor ignored demands to increase defence spending to three per cent of national income by 2030 in the Autumn Statement.

The RAF has pledged to reach net zero by 2040. However, when asked if uncertainty about defence spending would impact how much money can be poured into the military achieving its green targets, the defence source added: “Now we know that this is a carbon-neutral and green endeavour, we should be putting more money into this kind of research.

“The more who use it means the cost will eventually reduce, so everyone should be looking to participate in these schemes.”

Sustainable aviation fuel is made from waste-based sustainable feedstocks, such as used cooking oil, and reduces lifecycle carbon emissions on average by up to 80 per cent compared to the conventional jet fuel it replaces. Sustainable aviation fuel is made from waste-based sustainable feedstocks, such as used cooking oil CREDIT: Sharron Floyd/Serco Photo/RAF Brize Norton

The fuel, which is commercially available, presents a challenge of being available in large quantities.

However, the Ministry of Defence, which is responsible for 50 per cent of central government emissions, said that it hoped such trials would stimulate greater demand across the aviation sector, and lead to increased production and reduced costs as a result.

Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston, the Chief of the Air Staff, has previously acknowledged he was aware it sounded “crazy” that he is so invested in the environment as head of the RAF.

He said: “Climate change is a transnational challenge that threatens our resilience, our security and our collective prosperity.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=480Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston, right, welcomed Flight Lieutenant Nick Dehnel, second right, after the test flight CREDIT: Andrew Matthews/PA WireACM Sir Mike said that the way aircraft are powered “will be key” to achieving this goal, adding that the RAF “is already thinking about how we will operate beyond fossil fuels”.

He said: “This exciting trial flight of a Voyager from RAF Brize Norton, powered entirely by sustainable aviation fuel, is an important milestone on that journey, and marks another technological first for the RAF alongside our industry partners.”

Under ACM Sir Mike, Project Astra was set up as an initiative to look at every part of what the RAF does with a view to making it better and more efficient.

In Sep 2021, the RAF spent £30,000 on e-scooters to replace a shuttle bus on an airbase in an effort to go green.

In Nov 2021, the RAF completed the world’s first flight powered by synthetic fuel made from “air and water”.

Other innovations have included flying an electric aircraft at RAF Cranwell and creating fuel from genetically modified bacteria. The RAF also plans to have its first net-zero airbase by 2025.

Baroness Goldie, a defence minister, said: “Through the RAF’s pioneering spirit, expertise and partnership with UK industry, British science and engineering is leading the way in improving operational resilience and developing future operating capability in a climate-changed world.”

Ninthace 18th Nov 2022 22:43

If you are downwind, do you suddenly get a yen for a fish supper?

cynicalint 18th Nov 2022 22:46


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11333217)
If you are downwind, do you suddenly get a yen for a fish supper?

Only at Tokyo! Otherwise master card will suffice....

ShyTorque 18th Nov 2022 23:31

But has the RAF had its chips?

cynicalint 18th Nov 2022 23:34


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11333226)
But has the RAF had its chips?

Well, many RAF aircrew choose to buy chip-bag caps. Aircrew are really prescient!

NutLoose 19th Nov 2022 00:39

I say, are you frying tonight?

oldpax 19th Nov 2022 02:41

Carbon zero?
 
Remember those photos of loads of airmen riding bikes around?Why by electric scooters?Maybe officers only and erks pedal!

treadigraph 19th Nov 2022 05:50

US Navy should consider using it to fuel their Greyhounds for the COD service.

ShyTorque 19th Nov 2022 06:31

RAF going green, eh? Maybe next in the ongoing wokeness plan they will replace all those nasty loud munitions with flour bombs.

ATSA1 19th Nov 2022 06:47

...and there was Me, thinking that the RAF had bigger fish to fry...

Wensleydale 19th Nov 2022 07:39

The CAS stated that the RAF can now give any enemy a good battering.

Finningley Boy 19th Nov 2022 08:12

So... does the cooking oil have to have been used already? I mean can you pour a bottle of "Crisp & Dry" straight into the fuel tank? Anyway, more woke nonsense, ER's got Wiggie on the run!:p Seriously though, it would be interesting to see the reaction to these kind of developments from the likes of Just stop Oil!!

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fdr 19th Nov 2022 08:29


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11333283)
RAF going green, eh? Maybe next in the ongoing wokeness plan they will replace all those nasty loud munitions with flour bombs.

beaten to that one by the Isrealis, they dropped paint bombs on the Aswan, cooled heads.

Wensleydale 19th Nov 2022 08:41

As long as they landed in the right plaice.

uxb99 19th Nov 2022 09:04

Is this an inevitable attempt to deal with the fact that oil will eventually run out?
If so what is the future for an air force that has to rely on bio-fuels? I can't see a war being fought without oil, well not in it's current form.

ROC man 19th Nov 2022 09:10

Theres also the strategic side to this. UK refining capacity could be knocked out with about 6 well aimed bombs/missiles/ sabotage groups. We can now make fuel anywhere we choose to put a large mixing tank.

rattman 19th Nov 2022 09:27


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11333283)
RAF going green, eh? Maybe next in the ongoing wokeness plan they will replace all those nasty loud munitions with flour bombs.

Yeah and maybe stop sexually assaulting other members of the RAF

Jobza Guddun 19th Nov 2022 09:54


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11333366)
Yeah and maybe stop sexually assaulting other members of the RAF

Well that's the smeghead of the day competition won already.

Finningley Boy 19th Nov 2022 10:18


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11333345)
Is this an inevitable attempt to deal with the fact that oil will eventually run out?
If so what is the future for an air force that has to rely on bio-fuels? I can't see a war being fought without oil, well not in it's current form.

I think it is driven more by carbon emissions and the need to address this, hence my point about what reaction the various pressure groups, like ER and JSO, will have? If they welcome this, then they're serious about climate change, if they attack this on any grounds, then it is all the more likely their position is much less about countering climate change and saving the planet and far more about radical political change, specifically in western nations, like ours, and severely weakening economies, security and defence postures in order to achieve that. Calls, not entirely unheeded by our government, to pay one trillion pounds or so to developing nations in aid (reparations for the industrial revolution) are a loud hint that its the latter. I see Ed Miliband, not at all surprisingly, is a keen proponent.

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Dan Gerous 19th Nov 2022 10:47

Is there a vegan alternative?


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