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Herod 20th Nov 2022 15:35

Kedgeree, smoked haddock and poached egg, kippers? Not all at once,

West Coast 20th Nov 2022 15:40


Originally Posted by MENELAUS (Post 11333807)
That’s not bacon. That’s what’s left after they’ve butchered proper bacon.

Bacon is meant to be crisp, not that rubbery substance I’ve had in Europe.

Flyhighfirst 20th Nov 2022 15:45


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11333155)
Bear in mind the mean, weightless dessicated slivers that American call 'rashers' aren't remotely comparable to the real bacon served in the RN...They're about as comparable as a 'bag of chips" in either language.

Streaky bacon is so much better than UK bacon rashers.

Ninthace 20th Nov 2022 16:25


Originally Posted by West Coast (Post 11334031)
Bacon is meant to be crisp, not that rubbery substance I’ve had in Europe.

Proper bacon can be cooked crisp, in its own fat. I like mine with the rind crispy but with the meat still having a bit if chewiness. In a butty, I prefer the bacon a little less cooked so the juices can soak into the bread, The only question then is red or brown sauce. I prefer HP. As to coffee, I found I knew my US detachments were beginning to end as by then, I could actually taste the coffee, at first it was just warm and wet.

MENELAUS 20th Nov 2022 16:49


Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst (Post 11334034)
Streaky bacon is so much better than UK bacon rashers.


Pullitzer prize is safe for another year then I see.

BEagle 20th Nov 2022 16:50

As I wrote in a previous thread:


As any RAF AT/AAR world traveller who has visited the USofA will know, ordering breakfast in the US is a good grounding in resistance to interrogation. The aim of the game is to avoid being asked any questions:

"Good morning (name), it's a very nice day and we're ready to order!" Use of her name always invites a friendly smile!

"Two fried eggs please" positively invites questioning as the Americans seemingly have a vast number of ways of cooking the simple fried egg. So "Two eggs over easy" is the way of avoiding that.

The next question to pre-empt is "Ham, bacon or sausage?" Beware if you ask for sausage though - that might prompt the supplementary "Links or patties?" question.

Next comes toast. "White or brown" offends woke sensitivities, so it's best to go for "Rye toast please" - but we're not finished there, because you'll need to specify if you want buttered toast. That can prompt a "Regular butter?" supplementary - for the uninitiated, the alternative to 'regular' isn't low alcohol, lead free, low fat or somesuch, it's 'melted'....

Don't think you've aced it yet, because then comes orange juice, or rather 'OJ' - and that can be 'regular or large'...

Finally, don't forget "That's everything, thanks - and we'd like seperate checks please".

A silly crew game played in many a Holiday Inn or the like - but the delightful waitresses were always willing participants.

MENELAUS 20th Nov 2022 16:53


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11334060)
Proper bacon can be cooked crisp, in its own fat. I like mine with the rind crispy but with the meat still having a bit if chewiness. In a butty, I prefer the bacon a little less cooked so the juices can soak into the bread, The only question then is red or brown sauce. I prefer HP. As to coffee, I found I knew my US detachments were beginning to end as by then, I could actually taste the coffee, at first it was just warm and wet.

Butty, softly cooked rashers in the middle. Slightly crispier rashers either side. Deglaze the pan with Lea and Perrins and a dash of HP, and balsamic vinegar. Drizzle over with white floury baps.
And a large mug of strong stuff that our colonial cousins had the party over.

Old_Slartibartfast 20th Nov 2022 17:07


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11334077)
As I wrote in a previous thread:

As any RAF AT/AAR world traveller who has visited the USofA will know, ordering breakfast in the US is a good grounding in resistance to interrogation. The aim of the game is to avoid being asked any questions:

"Good morning (name), it's a very nice day and we're ready to order!" Use of her name always invites a friendly smile!

"Two fried eggs please" positively invites questioning as the Americans seemingly have a vast number of ways of cooking the simple fried egg. So "Two eggs over easy" is the way of avoiding that.

The next question to pre-empt is "Ham, bacon or sausage?" Beware if you ask for sausage though - that might prompt the supplementary "Links or patties?" question.

Next comes toast. "White or brown" offends woke sensitivities, so it's best to go for "Rye toast please" - but we're not finished there, because you'll need to specify if you want buttered toast. That can prompt a "Regular butter?" supplementary - for the uninitiated, the alternative to 'regular' isn't low alcohol, lead free, low fat or somesuch, it's 'melted'....

Don't think you've aced it yet, because then comes orange juice, or rather 'OJ' - and that can be 'regular or large'...

Finally, don't forget "That's everything, thanks - and we'd like seperate checks please".

A silly crew game played in many a Holiday Inn or the like - but the delightful waitresses were always willing participants.

I spent about a month staying in the Holiday Inn on Solomon's Island, whilst doing a stint at Pax River, and spent the entire duration of my stay trying to get the breakfast waitresses to understand that I just wanted a "full English". I went so far as to print off a slip with exactly what a full English breakfast consisted of, together with a plea to please stop interrogating me every morning with a dozen or more choices, and asked reception to please make a note of it. Sadly it fell on deaf ears.

Lonewolf_50 20th Nov 2022 17:28


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11333684)
Agreed, but please enlighten us as to the origin and period when hash browns evolved. And thank you for them, more reliable than hotel or Mess toast.

I have lost my inclination for hash browns, and since I joined the Navy (back before the internet existed) and got stationed in places like Virginia (Tidewater area), Florida, and Texas, I acquired a taste for grits and much prefer them with my breakfast. But quality is variable, so an order of dry toast is always held in reserve when eggs are on the plate (if I take a look around and see grits that are too runny).

bugged on the right 20th Nov 2022 17:43

Very much miss passing through the MAC terminal for breakfast at Hickham. Western omelette with Portuguese sausage. Have been in search of that ever since. Some things you miss like the greasy eggs in the mess before an early departure and the hundred megawatt toaster. Think I prefer the American version of bacon than the British boiled.

SASless 20th Nov 2022 18:30

This latest Class of US Aircraft Carriers come with many new and improved features over the previous classes....more stealthy, more power for propulsion and other energy users (Laser weapons?), higher sortie rate, increased crew comfort due to reduced numbers of Crew and embarked air squadron staff.

How does the new. British Carriers compare to these new American Carriers?

https://www.hotcars.com/why-ford-cla...-nimitz-class/

MENELAUS 20th Nov 2022 18:53

Sadly there’s no comparison to be made. If we fully man them ( other genders are available but that’s led to other issues ) we can’t man the destroyers that are meant to guard them. And we can’t embark a full air group on either. Moot point right now as one is laid up with a stuffed gearbox and drive shaft issues. So, the usual UK lash up.
We do have, however, two flyco bridges. One more for the hypersonic missiles to aim at.
Your bacon is still **** though. And the coffee

T28B 20th Nov 2022 21:27


Originally Posted by MENELAUS (Post 11334148)
One more for the hypersonic missiles to aim at.

Which may end up being a brilliant design choice when all is said and done.

Your bacon is still **** though. And the coffee
The next time you pass through San Francisco, I suggest you sample some Peet's - you may reverse that opinion. :ok:

Lyneham Lad 20th Nov 2022 22:07

All very good but I have yet to see mention of an Egg Banjo. Us members of a 390 MU working party en-route to fix Changi's problems would make a pit-stop in Changi village to collect said egg banjos then endeavour to avoid a dribble of egg yolk down one's kd shirt whilst scoffing it.

Ninthace 20th Nov 2022 22:30


Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad (Post 11334233)
All very good but I have yet to see mention of an Egg Banjo. Us members of a 390 MU working party en-route to fix Changi's problems would make a pit-stop in Changi village to collect said egg banjos then endeavour to avoid a dribble of egg yolk down one's kd shirt whilst scoffing it.

As first officer of the watch at a large RN stone frigate I always started my late shift with an egg banjo. A full set keeps the yolk off your mess kit and saves a little something for later.

MENELAUS 20th Nov 2022 22:36


Originally Posted by T28B (Post 11334221)
Which may end up being a brilliant design choice when all is said and done.
The next time you pass through San Francisco, I suggest you sample some Peet's - you may reverse that opinion. :ok:


I have indeed tried Peet’s. And you can’t beat a Rueben from Wise Sons Jewish deli. It’s more the method of processing said coffee that seems ubiquitous in the US; the drip percolator method which seems to wreck any vestige of taste.

langleybaston 20th Nov 2022 22:50

Memo to Self:

Egg banjos and similar hazards should only be tackled wearing what my famiy call "playing out clothes". These are two up from rags, one up from crawling under the car or painting the fence, one down from smart casual and two or three down from formal.

SWMBO in valet mode organises my gear so I have shirts and jerseys/ jumpers/ pullovers in separate compartments by tattiness. And, for the OCD in me, further subdivisions: I am green/ blue colour part-blind, so division is essentially blue/ black/ grey versus green/ red/ brown. Poofter pink is a problem.

Thus I can dress in the dark either matched if I feel submissive and conformist, or unmatched if the rebel streak spark flickers to life.
Messages of sympathy gratefully accepted.

MENELAUS 20th Nov 2022 23:19

You need a reliable pair of drinking pants.

Lonewolf_50 21st Nov 2022 01:43

Aircraft carriers and food: I remember fondly the dirty shirt wardroom in the Indy, a bit forward and under the cats, and being able to have food there while still wearing a flight suit. I only ate in the 'normal' wardroom (which required one to be in khaki) when I had to...which was very rarely. I wonder if that's still a thing. Been a few years ...

MENELAUS 21st Nov 2022 09:55


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 11334288)
Aircraft carriers and food: I remember fondly the dirty shirt wardroom in the Indy, a bit forward and under the cats, and being able to have food there while still wearing a flight suit. I only ate in the 'normal' wardroom (which required one to be in khaki) when I had to...which was very rarely. I wonder if that's still a thing. Been a few years ...

Still a thing. ACRB in RN parlance. Serving up heart stopping fare whilst in your goon bag.


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