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NutLoose 16th Nov 2022 21:33

Lanius anti personnel drones
 
The future now… watch the film in the link.


The Israeli company Elbit Systems demonstrated its new development of a loitering munition, which is designed for manpower destruction, in particular, in built-up conditions.

This drone was named Lanius and is characterized by the developer as a highly maneuverable universal tool for destroying the enemy in the street combat conditions.

At the same time, Lanius is attracting increased interest due to the extremely interesting concept of a hunter drone whose purpose is not the enemy's equipment, but his manpower. To do this, first of all, an actual sports quadrocopter was used. And to destroy the enemy, a high-explosive fragmentation warhead of directed action is used.

But, the main feature of Lanius is a developed system of artificial intelligence. The drone analyzes the space, detects obstacles and targets, thanks to which it can be used even indoors. Thus, its use does not depend on the skill of the "pilot", and its participation in the destruction of the target is already purely formal, the drone can independently identify the enemy, approach it, take the necessary position, and the operator is only required to pull the "trigger".
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...nius-4867.html

Flying Binghi 17th Nov 2022 02:51

Maybe the tank ain’t dead just yet…

jolihokistix 17th Nov 2022 02:59

The problem with the Israeli military is that this weapon could sound the death knell for the now almost broken chain of moral responsibility.

megan 17th Nov 2022 03:44


this weapon could sound the death knell for the now almost broken chain of moral responsibility
The Russians have already achieved that with just the use of a knife and sledge hammer, videos available.

ORAC 17th Nov 2022 06:52

They’re coming - it’s just a matter of when and where, not if……


Flying Binghi 22nd Nov 2022 21:47

How times have changed. It were only a little over fifteen years ago on this very forum that I were being ridiculed by some for suggesting the dangers of drones..:hmm:

N707ZS 23rd Nov 2022 08:02

Presume a small drone could carry a grenade straight into a target.

Old_Slartibartfast 23rd Nov 2022 08:19


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 11335681)
Presume a small drone could carry a grenade straight into a target.


Like this?


Less Hair 23rd Nov 2022 08:38

Small drones are the pain. Like flying land mines.
Too small to use more sophisticated defence weapons against them and still capable enough. So cheap to be used in masses. Wait until they get networked to each other.

Old_Slartibartfast 23rd Nov 2022 08:50

Ukraine has been using COTS drones for some months, with a home made carriage and release mechanism to hold grenades that have been modified by fitting 3D printed tail fins. Brilliantly ingenious and simple in concept, and seemingly both cheap and effective. I believe the modified drones they are using are just a couple of thousand dollars or so, the grenades are ones they already have lots of and one of their backyard workshops came up with the 3D printed fins and fuzing system. Got to really admire their ingenuity.

This video gives an idea of what they were doing about 5 months ago:


N707ZS 23rd Nov 2022 10:44

That looks like a dangerous loading practice, if it fell would it explode? For me it would be on the floor and stand back on start-up and launch. Delivery looks a bit Biggles.

Old_Slartibartfast 23rd Nov 2022 10:56


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 11335790)
That looks like a dangerous loading practice, if it fell would it explode? For me it would be on the floor and stand back on start-up and launch. Delivery looks a bit Biggles.

Risk is always relative though, isn't it?

Sure, it looks as shonky as hell, but these are people living where the alternative to taking risks like this when fighting back is being shelled out of existence. The video below perhaps gives a better insight into some of the bigger and more effective "drone bombers" Ukraine has developed. Definitely effective, but there is no way anyone has produced a proper safety case for them, I'm sure.


ORAC 23rd Nov 2022 11:03


small drones are the pain. Like flying land mines.
too small to use more sophisticated defence weapons against them and still capable enough. So cheap to be used in masses. Wait until they get networked to each other.

​​​​​​​https://youtu.be/djudvxjh6yi
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Less Hair 23rd Nov 2022 11:08

I cannot see what your post contains except for my quote, unfortunately.

Old_Slartibartfast 23rd Nov 2022 11:18


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11335808)
I cannot see what your post contains except for my quote, unfortunately.

Looks fine here, it's a YouTube video, may be it's being blocked your end?

The video URL is here, just cut and paste the URL below into a browser and it should play OK (I've stuck inside code tags to stop it auto displaying here):

Code:

https://youtu.be/DjUdVxJH6yI

dead_pan 23rd Nov 2022 11:20

Countermeasures already exist:

Door Fly Curtain Screen

A bargain at only £3-99! Of course you could double that for a mil customer.

Sue Vêtements 23rd Nov 2022 14:01

Next we'll be carrying shields like Roman soldiers and using them to duck behind - hoping it's not dropped directly down of course




"Frequently bought together: Door Fly Curtain Screen + 7 Ltr Parasol Base + Smart Solar 50 String LED Lights" ... well something's afoot

Flying Binghi 17th Dec 2022 22:45


Originally Posted by Old_Slartibartfast (Post 11335723)
Ukraine has been using COTS drones for some months, with a home made carriage and release mechanism to hold grenades that have been modified by fitting 3D printed tail fins. Brilliantly ingenious and simple in concept, and seemingly both cheap and effective. I believe the modified drones they are using are just a couple of thousand dollars or so, the grenades are ones they already have lots of and one of their backyard workshops came up with the 3D printed fins and fuzing system. Got to really admire their ingenuity.

This video gives an idea of what they were doing about 5 months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_dmhGU5UE


Looking at it, the traditional side release of the ‘bomb’ induces an initial tumbling motion that would effect accuracy. I wonder if a vertical hold bomb rack would be more effective ?


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