VM. great to see the `goofers gallery` full ,as usual,for a 24 Sdn crew demo...
KS,suggest the aircraft is a little `low`,as the hose is not level from the drogue...but hey ,I`m just an old AARI....! `Scroggs` will be along to comment... |
Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 11328619)
VM. great to see the `goofers gallery` full ,as usual,for a 24 Sdn crew demo...
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Duncan,it was H& S that finally saw the demise of the Herc tankers,as the Andover tanks were single skinned,and would be a nightmare if involved in any shooting war,as the system did not allow fuel to be directly offloaded thu` the HDU to a receiver,but transferred up to the main fuel system,not that the rest of the aircraft`s fuel system was any different,ie no self sealing /flame-suppressant system,either...
I took a couple of tankers to the `scrapyard at Marshall`s` `,ostensibly for scrapping,but they were later sold on to the Sri Lankan AF ,and also the Austrian AF..Still in service I think...and they`d been operated at up to 175kMauw......! or thereabouts... It was never comfortable looking out at the wings/engines`nodding`; one felt that Marshalls should have put a couple of extra `struts/flying wires on the wings.... |
IIRC,
the tanker always had 4 internal tanks. It was the PLR 2/4 mods that varied the tanks. As sycamore says they were https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1e342238b.jpg routinely operated at 20000 lbs above the normal T/O weight. I would noot have bought an ex RAF tanker but I assume they are still giving good service. View from my 'office'. |
IIRC, that overload was allowed for in the design, but had to be authorised by a VSO, as wartime necessity.
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Originally Posted by ancientaviator62
(Post 11328937)
IIRC,
the tanker always had 4 internal tanks. It was the PLR 2/4 mods that varied the tanks. As sycamore says they were https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1e342238b.jpg routinely operated at 20000 lbs above the normal T/O weight. I would noot have bought an ex RAF tanker but I assume they are still giving good service. View from my 'office'. |
As there seems to be a rewed interest in the RAF Hercules tanker I have several pics of them. Most are mine some are not If I put any up then perhaps the owners of the rights can forgive me ! I will put up one a day to gauge the interest.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fa4327fcda.jpg |
Herod,
yes the 175000 lbs overload weight was meant to be an emergency one off. Not the norm as we did with the tankers. I understand that Lockheed were approached for fatigue information about this but refused to help ! |
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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 11328637)
I took a couple of tankers to the "scrapyard at Marshall's", ostensibly for scrapping, but they were later sold on to the Sri Lankan AF, and also the Austrian AF. Still in service I think...
Making a RIAT debut this year will be the Austrian Air Force with their Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) role demonstration. In an exciting display sequence, this C-130K Hercules will simulate an intruder entering RAF Fairford airspace only to be intercepted by a pair of Austrian Air Force Eurofighter Typhoons scrambling from the runway with orders to force the Hercules to land. The Austrian fleet of three C-130K aircraft were all previously flown by the Royal Air Force and are all now based at Hörsching Air Base. |
Dave,
thanks for the information. However with quite a few tanker hours in my log book I would still have opted for other redundant RAF C130k a/c were I to buy one. ! I suppose you can see the sales pitch. One titled lady owner, never raced or rallied and full service history. |
I thought that the ones the Austrians had bought were not ex-tankers. The Sri Lankans had bought a few of them but at least one was scrapped in situ at Marshals in Cambridge, I saw it reduced to nothing over a number of visits to drop off & collect frames. The Austrians had some of the good ones, I remember seeing a couple up in Norway parked near us some years ago (around 2005ish?), they’d upgraded them including INAS etc (no need for the Nav!)
Some years later I was on a land away to Austria in a newer TacAT type and saw one of them in the circuit, the trails of black smoke seemed rather innocuous for this day & age… |
Originally Posted by Ken Scott
(Post 11329562)
I thought that the ones the Austrians had bought were not ex-tankers.
8T-CA (4198), formerly XV181 8T-CB (4256), formerly XV291 8T-CC (4257), formerly XV292 if that helps in identifying whether any of them are ex-tankers. |
XV292 wasn't a Tanker - it was the aircraft that carried the 25 Years In RAF Service livery in 1992.
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As I thought none of those were tankers. From my logbook I have XV201, 204, 213 & 296 as tankers. I think there were only four.
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XV192 ,XV203 were also tankers,6 altogether...
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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 11328637)
Duncan,it was H& S that finally saw the demise of the Herc tankers,as the Andover tanks were single skinned,and would be a nightmare if involved in any shooting war,as the system did not allow fuel to be directly offloaded thu` the HDU to a receiver,but transferred up to the main fuel system,not that the rest of the aircraft`s fuel system was any different,ie no self sealing /flame-suppressant system,either...
I took a couple of tankers to the `scrapyard at Marshall`s` `,ostensibly for scrapping,but they were later sold on to the Sri Lankan AF ,and also the Austrian AF..Still in service I think...and they`d been operated at up to 175kMauw......! or thereabouts... It was never comfortable looking out at the wings/engines`nodding`; one felt that Marshalls should have put a couple of extra `struts/flying wires on the wings.... |
Nutty,maybe they`re still `in service`...
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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 11329864)
Nutty,maybe they`re still `in service`...
Though in fairness we never had a problem again. … |
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