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albatross 3rd Sep 2022 15:42

Osprey grounded on an Island.
 
Does anyone know the empty weight / mass of an Osprey?
Strange story I just came across.
Can it be too difficult to strip it down to a weight that a Chinook could lift?


https://www.airlive.net/an-u-s-ospre...mpossible/amp/

The Helpful Stacker 3rd Sep 2022 16:51


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11290242)
Does anyone know the empty weight / mass of an Osprey?
Strange story I just came across.
Can it be too difficult to strip it down to a weight that a Chinook could lift?


https://www.airlive.net/an-u-s-ospre...mpossible/amp/

Is that an African or European Swallow...I mean, Osprey?

Will it be carrying a coconut?

JohnDixson 3rd Sep 2022 17:23

They might call the USMC for a hand. 53K has a 36k hook.

PPRuNeUser0211 3rd Sep 2022 17:27


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11290242)
Does anyone know the empty weight / mass of an Osprey?
Strange story I just came across.
Can it be too difficult to strip it down to a weight that a Chinook could lift?


https://www.airlive.net/an-u-s-ospre...mpossible/amp/

Empty weight listed as 15 tons, engines are about half a ton each. Either with or without I reckon a CH-53 would just about manage it at sea level at a sensible temperature.

Compass Call 3rd Sep 2022 20:29

Looks like it has been part stripped?

albatross 10th Sep 2022 20:33

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....933e7468a.jpeg
Perhaps our Ukranian friends have one of these they can borrow?

M609 18th Sep 2022 18:04

Recovery in progress: Google Translate Article (dagbladet.no)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dc0795ea65.jpg

gamecock 18th Sep 2022 18:40

Was that website named by Yosemite Sam?

M609 25th Sep 2022 18:11

Video

SASless 25th Sep 2022 19:55

Gamecock......now you done it!

M609 27th Sep 2022 18:50

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50dfc8880.jpeg
It´s afloat

Compass Call 27th Sep 2022 19:02

How come in post #7 the wings and props are folded but in post #11 the wings and props are spread?
Surely the recovery would be a lot easier when it was a smaller package?

Richard

M609 27th Sep 2022 19:30

Guess: The liftingpoints in use are on the wing, and perhaps they are rated for use only with the wing in flight position?

Bksmithca 27th Sep 2022 19:32


Originally Posted by Compass Call (Post 11303771)
How come in post #7 the wings and props are folded but in post #11 the wings and props are spread?
Surely the recovery would be a lot easier when it was a smaller package?

Richard

I was wondering the same thing. Is it possible that in order to access the lifting points the wings need to be in the normal position?

SASless 27th Sep 2022 19:54

Makes you wonder what the failure was that cannot be repaired in the field?

212man 27th Sep 2022 20:59


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 11303805)
Makes you wonder what the failure was that cannot be repaired in the field?

isn’t it that the fleet is grounded so can’t fly out regardless of any repairs?

SASless 27th Sep 2022 21:39

A one time ferry permit would be reasonable.

Recall the USN and USMC did not ground their Fleets as did the USAF and have quite a few more of the Aircraft than does the USAF.

The hard engagement issue has been known since 2010 or so.

rattman 28th Sep 2022 11:01


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 11303805)
Makes you wonder what the failure was that cannot be repaired in the field?

Probably find the damage done during the repair would have been more damage than how they retrieved it. If you had to drain oil and fuel and it takes 1 uncontained leak. People having to live and move around damaging the flora. Probably need some material handling vehicles. Field repairs can be bloody awful, I wasn't involved but remember talking to someone who was involved in a full field replacement of an engine on a chinook in rural WA (western australia) it was a pretty large exercise and it wasn't any enviormental issues. Just a long way from anywhere, something like 4 hours drive from the nearest pub

M609 28th Sep 2022 16:28

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c3e9d9858.jpeg
Arrived at Bardufoss AB by road today.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 28th Sep 2022 22:04

I never realised the wings could "fold" on the Osprey. Amazing the engineering that went into that airframe to make it as small as possible when necessary.


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