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BEagle 18th Jul 2022 22:09

Some years ago, long before the RAF FT, a colleague who was ex-Lightnings, ex-UK Harriers was posted to an exchange tour with the US Marine Corps. It soon became apparent to him that our colonial chums had rather an obsession with fitness; however, he noted this with benign indifference. Until one day when he was invited to participate in one of those 'cadence runs' the USMC does...

"Run?? RUN?? Dear me no, old chap! British officers don't run - it would panic the troops!"

BATCO 19th Jul 2022 07:34


Originally Posted by dctyke (Post 11263607)
talking of fitness should they go through this for tradition. Should be wearing lightweight cam gear!

Other countries manage to have a 'summer' parade uniform.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ed0570ec5.jpeg

Batco

charliegolf 19th Jul 2022 08:55


Originally Posted by mymatetcm (Post 11263904)
He can say all he wants, in regards the fitness of potential recruits. To do this the whole entry medical requirements would have to be re written.

There used to be a categorisation, the all-rounder being A1,G1,Z1. Just changing Z1 to P1 ought to do it, I'd have thought.

CG

Willard Whyte 19th Jul 2022 10:46


Originally Posted by EGDLaddict (Post 11262432)

That sodding beep test did knacker a lot of knees during the 180 turn.

3 operations, so far, for me. I was put on to the Rockport Walk earlier than my 55th and can still pass it comfortably. I'm not 'fit', indeed I could do with losing a few lbs, but I can pass the fitness test, even though I have no need in my job or in the real world to perform sit-ups or press-ups. I won't be sorry to leave all that sh*te behind when I retire in '26.

Still, I've outlasted a few enthusiastic cyclists and gym bunnies who died in their 40s from causes various.

Ninthace 19th Jul 2022 11:49

When are we going to see an equivalent annual test for the bit that lies between the ears?

Willard Whyte 19th Jul 2022 12:27


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11264200)
When are we going to see an equivalent annual test for the bit that lies between the ears?

Thankfully mental health is now taken very seriously by many people in chains of command, as well as the medics. Only problem is generally one has to seek help unless the people you work for have a degree of empathy.

MPN11 19th Jul 2022 12:40


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11264110)
There used to be a categorisation, the all-rounder being A1,G1,Z1. Just changing Z1 to P1 ought to do it, I'd have thought.

IIRC, it was A fit for aircrew (I was A4, eyesight), G fit for ground duties and Z fit for overseas. Still, my A4G1Z1 was good fun and paid well eventually.


Toadstool 19th Jul 2022 15:23


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11264200)
When are we going to see an equivalent annual test for the bit that lies between the ears?

I have a check ride every year for professional competency, a physical fitness test every year (actually every two years) and at least two mental health DLE competencies. This is in addition to my annual PME.

Toadstool 19th Jul 2022 15:25


Originally Posted by Willard Whyte (Post 11264214)
Thankfully mental health is now taken very seriously by many people in chains of command, as well as the medics. Only problem is generally one has to seek help unless the people you work for have a degree of empathy.

With all the MH training that we get, thankfully people are more inclined to ask people if they are ok, as opposed to waiting for people to recognise it themselves.

langleybaston 19th Jul 2022 15:56

Do the trick cyclists also look at something like Myers-Briggs?

I would not want several of the 16 types in my unit/ aircraft/ ship/ ditch.

[They wouldn't want me, of course]

ExAscoteer2 19th Jul 2022 18:08


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11264301)
Do the trick cyclists also look at something like Myers-Briggs?

Myers-Briggs became part of the CRM Cse in the late '90s. IMHO it's utter horlicks.

langleybaston 19th Jul 2022 18:13


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11264337)
Myers-Briggs became part of the CRM Cse in the late '90s. IMHO it's utter horlicks.

It may well be, it may very well be.

Fact is, when I was subjected to it and saw the result I most definitely identified with it. Perhaps everyone does ....... one size fits all.

SASless 19th Jul 2022 19:51

Beags,

Had he been with a US Army Aviation Unit and stayed close to the Warrant Officer Pilots and played our Corps notorious Game known as "Where's Chief?"....he would have found himself in an aircraft overflying that bit of cadence called bit of silliness known as "running".

MPN11 19th Jul 2022 19:55

I did that free on-line test without really concentrating. Is “Executive” a good answer for a Staff Officer (retd)? 😎

SLXOwft 19th Jul 2022 20:40

My question is will DCNS have to issue a notice that members of the Naval Service must not refer to RAF IT personnel as 'fat crabs'?:} Sincere apologies to any currently or formerly in light blue who are offended, but I could resist the pun no longer.

Myers-Briggs: taken it four times been told four different types.

However, academic research would appear to support those of us who think being fit improves mental effectiveness and mental health.

PE (physical exercise) determines positive biological and psychological effects that affect the brain and the cognitive functioning and promote a condition of wellbeing.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles....00509/full#h7

SASless 19th Jul 2022 22:48

Seems I must be an " outlier"....I made some of my stupid decisions and judgementt calls when I was the most physically fit during my Life.




langleybaston 19th Jul 2022 23:08


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11264383)
I did that free on-line test without really concentrating. Is “Executive” a good answer for a Staff Officer (retd)? 😎

Not as bad as a cringeing nonentity discovering that, at heart, he was a mix of Napoleon and Genghis Khan.

Bugger!

RAFEngO74to09 20th Jul 2022 01:56


Originally Posted by BATCO (Post 11264080)
Other countries manage to have a 'summer' parade uniform.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ed0570ec5.jpeg

Batco

Indeed - here's another example - ridiculously fast marching for the use of - with the number of shirt buttons to be used left entirely to personal choice!


The Oberon 20th Jul 2022 03:46


Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09 (Post 11264479)
Indeed - here's another example - ridiculously fast marching for the use of - with the number of shirt buttons to be used left entirely to personal choice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfuzY78HGHI

Ah yes, the strange Spanish Legion. This is how a proper legion marches.

Photoplanet 22nd Jul 2022 23:20


Originally Posted by Saintsman (Post 11261771)

what next, troops working from home?

UAV Pilots - Why not...?


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