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Obba 3rd Jun 2022 08:17

Some behinds the footage here - great work by the ground teams...


kghjfg 3rd Jun 2022 08:28


Originally Posted by Jackonicko (Post 11239763)
The failure to issue actual maps showing where and when different elements were going to disperse

That wasn’t a failure,

That was a security measure, I once worked with a person who was involved in the XR “shut the airports” drone debacle. (He was an XR Lieutenant, Yes, they give themselves military ranks)

it was a well planned drone terrorist attack, foiled by intelligence.

XR or Insulate Britain or Stop Oil would have gone for the flypast.

They may have done so anyway, have you not noticed all the GPS Jamming going on?

There’s more than a few animal rights activists trying to disrupt the jubilee.

Timelord 3rd Jun 2022 09:14


Originally Posted by rcsa (Post 11239981)
Seriously, chaps - HE was sitting in a windowless room, with a list of aircraft provided by the RAF and filtered by a producer, with monitors showing five or six different camera angles, while a director made independent decisions on which camera view to broadcast, and echelons of aircraft came overhead at 200 knots. He possibly had no idea what the broadcast output was showing at that moment. And he's a TV personality, not ex-aircrew or a spotter. He'd been live for over two hours, on what may well be the biggest show of the year, with a guest in the studio to engage with.

It's probably not as tough as flying an inverted Buccaneer at 20 ft around the Glens, as you gents have all done, but it's not easy; and using this error to slag off the BBC tells more about your own political agenda than it does about HE's ability.

All true no doubt. But the point of a TV commentary is to explain and amplify the pictures we are seeing. If that explanation is wrong, whatever the reason, then it is a cause for legitimate criticism from those who pay for the service.

Union Jack 3rd Jun 2022 10:38


Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 11240014)
All true no doubt. But the point of a TV commentary is to explain and amplify the pictures we are seeing. If that explanation is wrong, whatever the reason, then it is a cause for legitimate criticism from those who pay for the service.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"! I'm definitely with Rcsa.:ok:

Jack

Sleeve Wing 3rd Jun 2022 11:06

Fortunately it was a good day although a bit lumpy over the city.
A good effort by everyone involved from the sharp end to the techies ....... and the 70 formation was a delight.
I'd like to thank particularly the Typhoons for flying straight over White Waltham on departure, as promised.
Quite neat when everyone is relaxing after the sweat of getting it just right for the previous half an hour. Thank you.
Makes you proud

ZH875 3rd Jun 2022 11:14


Originally Posted by DaveO70 (Post 11239958)
I noticed (looking at the ADSB feed) that when the fast jets came over the coast one of them turned back / away... I can't fathom why... none seemed to be missing, but then why would an extra one have been sent!

possibly a serviceable airborne spare in case one of the jets goes u/s

DaveReidUK 3rd Jun 2022 11:52

There were 72 aircraft, rather than the advertised 70, over the Palace. Hopefully HM wasn't counting ...

wondering 3rd Jun 2022 12:03


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11239759)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e498b1bdf1.jpg
As it was seen from Wanstead! Totally superb!!

The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.

charliegolf 3rd Jun 2022 12:08


Originally Posted by wondering (Post 11240074)
The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.

That's because HMTQ writes her 7s with a little downstroke at the beginning. Do check before posting!:ok:

CG

Dominator2 3rd Jun 2022 12:33

I thought that the flypast was superb.
As for wondering

The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.
. All I can say is "have you ever tried to fly line abreast for a long time?

Might be my imagination but all waves appeared to be angled off about 3 degrees from the North. In its self not too significant, however, it does make a difference in the photographs. Have the planners got the run-in track absolutely correct?

Timelord 3rd Jun 2022 12:42

I think one of the most impressive things about the fly past was how they (everybody involved) achieved those numbers and that standard given how busy we know some fleets are over Central Europe.

Top West 50 3rd Jun 2022 12:52

Here is one we did earlier:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c5f200b441.jpg

Gordon Brown 3rd Jun 2022 13:00

Dave 070

That will have been the 'Whip'; responsible for advising the pilots:

"Number two, forward 5 feet, Number 7 left 10 feet" etc.

The airborne spares would probably have RTB once the formation pushed from the hold.

(Oh, and just curious, but why does just about EVERY thread on this forum descend into a sub-branch of Aviation History & Nostalgia within 24 hours?)

Top West 50 3rd Jun 2022 13:05

Because nostalgia is all that's left.

ACW599 3rd Jun 2022 13:11


Originally Posted by rcsa (Post 11239981)
It's probably not as tough as flying an inverted Buccaneer at 20 ft around the Glens, as you gents have all done, but it's not easy; and using this error to slag off the BBC tells more about your own political agenda than it does about HE's ability.

No it doesn't. It says something about the quite reasonable expectations people have of the BBC for reliability and accuracy, especially in view of the inordinately high payments made to its "personalities".

I spent much of my professional life with the BBC as a continuity announcer, which sometimes involved officiating at live radio OBs. They're not remotely difficult and I didn't have (or require) producers and directors to assist.

charliegolf 3rd Jun 2022 13:47


Originally Posted by Top West 50 (Post 11240099)
Because nostalgia is all that's left.

Even that's not as it used to be.

CG

DuncanDoenitz 3rd Jun 2022 14:03


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 11240075)
That's because HMTQ writes her 7s with a little downstroke at the beginning. Do check before posting!:ok:

CG

Amazing. Right number, the correct way around, and someone criticises the font. What do you want - Times New Roman?

MPN11 3rd Jun 2022 14:11


Originally Posted by ACW599 (Post 11240104)
No it doesn't. It says something about the quite reasonable expectations people have of the BBC for reliability and accuracy, especially in view of the inordinately high payments made to its "personalities".

I spent much of my professional life with the BBC as a continuity announcer, which sometimes involved officiating at live radio OBs. They're not remotely difficult and I didn't have (or require) producers and directors to assist.

Ahh, so that's you!


simmy 3rd Jun 2022 14:16

What a rude remark.
 
I bet punkieyes doesn't" get much" with that sort of remark about our forces. I flew a Vulcan on a couple of Birthday Flypasts and when she was flown around the country on "the Last Flight" my wife insisted that we should position ourselves to see it go by! It didn't...it was off route by a mile or so to possibly acknowledge friends in a nearby village. Am I too late to whinge about it?


Originally Posted by punkieys17 (Post 11239609)
Well I dont get it. Like many we studied the zoomable maps to see a fly past........2 aircraft went past over the route at Chertsey in Surrey. A flock of helicopters then went sounth of the route by some 2 to 3 miles, disappointing the crowd that had gathered on the playing fields directly below the flight path. Given the lack of accuracy one can ony believe Ukraine would be in danger if we sent our flyboys.....


DaveReidUK 3rd Jun 2022 14:44


Originally Posted by Dominator2 (Post 11240085)
Might be my imagination but all waves appeared to be angled off about 3 degrees from the North. In its self not too significant, however, it does make a difference in the photographs. Have the planners got the run-in track absolutely correct?

"3 degrees from the North" ?

Are you suggesting they didn't overfly the Palace, or that they approached from the wrong direction ?


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