Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11229005)
Ah, there's the professional journalist at work.....................
|
Originally Posted by melmothtw
(Post 11228777)
Absolutely I do, but it was the British government that instituted the amnesty of Republican and Loyalist paramilitaries for the sake of peace. As I've said, British soldiers aren't terrorists, and so should be held to a higher standard.
Thousands of British soldiers/airmen served in Northern Ireland without commiting any crimes. For the few that may have, these need to be investigated. That's all. Please continue to comment, Can I just say one thing, It is nearly 50 years ago since the troubles and while I can understand your ideal that British Servicemen needed to be held to account (BTW you missed Royal Navy off your list of those that served in the province,) The problem I think you might find will be finding credible witnesses, those involved in say rioting and a civilian getting shot at are probably going to be the very same people that were rioting and against the military presence, hence hostile witnesses while often those for the defence or prosecution have since died. I would also point out any death will have been investigated at the time. Where does this seem like justice is being served? A number of the soldiers have repeatedly been investigated and cleared of wrongdoing only to be reinvestigated by new units set up in Northern Ireland to deal with historical cases. You just have to read this to see the problems faced https://www.judiciaryni.uk/sites/jud...oldier%20C.pdf I served in NI BTW to be fair. .. |
Originally Posted by Haraka
(Post 11228997)
N.B. There is a difference between an opinion and a qualified opinion ;)
His little sulky retort regarding "echo chamber" I think best sums up the value he places in qualified opinions. |
Late to the party, but if you don't want to hear any opinions other than those you agree with, it kind of is an echo chamber.
Peace out! |
Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
(Post 11229039)
Late to the party, but if you don't want to hear any opinions other than those you agree with, it kind of is an echo chamber.
Peace out! The terms of the GFA created the climate for a witch hunt against elderly ex-service personnel. This was and is unacceptable. |
I may well have Refuelled CRAB@SAAvn, at some point. When I did my first det to NI, my parents had no clue what actually happened there.
|
Originally Posted by RotorsTurningRefuel
(Post 11229064)
I may well have Refuelled you, at some point. When I did my first det to NI, my parents had no clue what actually happened there.
😉 No time for tea breaks.... And yes, it's quite shocking how little of what went on in NI was reported on The Mainland. |
Mil 26 - I am more than happy to debate the pros and cons of justice but a military aviation website isn't normally the place for it.
Moreover, the 'echo chamber' comment was him playing the man, hence my retort. A journalist should be listening to both sides and making a reasoned, balanced argument rather than just a bold statement on a forum which is bound to inflame - but perhaps that is modern journalism for you. |
Mil 26 - I am more than happy to debate the pros and cons of justice but a military aviation website isn't normally the place for it. Moreover, the 'echo chamber' comment was him playing the man, hence my retort. A journalist should be listening to both sides and making a reasoned, balanced argument rather than just a bold statement on a forum which is bound to inflame - but perhaps that is modern journalism for you. Peace out! |
As far as I read it, the echo chamber comment didn't appear to be directed at any one poster in particular, and was more of an observation on the general unwillingness to engage with any opinions that didn't tally with their own. Could be wrong, but that's how I read it. |
What to say is difficult, because the NI goalposts have moved so far for political expediency. I never served in that benighted Province, thank Deity. But, adequately impacted personally to have a totally unbalanced view about the murdering ba*r**ds vs. The Home Team facing their own deaths every single day from various methods.
In England … My mother caught up in a railway station event. Me, my daughter and my father on-site for the Heathrow T1 bomb (and my car survived) Me handily placed for the No 10 mortar attack. … and add personal friends murdered or damaged. Hundreds of cold-blooded murders still walk the streets. Is it any wonder that those on the Blue Team who were there and suffered stretched the boundaries? |
"because the NI goalposts have moved so far for political expediency"
i'd say it was for political reality - the only way to stop the war was for both sides to compromise - which they did. Otherwise we'd still be fighting there Compromises are messy, and unpopular with many as they will always believe that "one more big push and we would have won" is unprovable years after the event. |
All times are GMT. The time now is 15:09. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.