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Baldeep Inminj 2nd May 2022 17:21

Discrimination and Prejudice alive and well in the RAF
 
The following email was recently leaked to the Press, and highlights the disgusting and inexcusable prejudice that still festers in the RAF. What have 'White Males' done to deserve this? If I was a serving White Male pilot (I am an 'ex' one), I would be so disillusioned with the RAF's opinion of me as being unworthy of representing the Organization that I fight for.

I copied the email from LinkedIn, but it can be found on myriad sites. No reply from CAS though...

Truly Shameful.

https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...5hvzjBpVy0ly70


vascodegama 2nd May 2022 17:30

Pronoun use is poor as well.

rudestuff 2nd May 2022 17:52

Sarah should be ashamed of himself.

Timelord 2nd May 2022 17:59

Good to know that with a war in Europe, and the operational parts of the RAF being pretty busy as a result , someone is worrying about the important stuff.
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alfred_the_great 2nd May 2022 18:02


Originally Posted by Baldeep Inminj (Post 11224209)
The following email was recently leaked to the Press, and highlights the disgusting and inexcusable prejudice that still festers in the RAF. What have 'White Males' done to deserve this? If I was a serving White Male pilot (I am an 'ex' one), I would be so disillusioned with the RAF's opinion of me as being unworthy of representing the Organization that I fight for.

I copied the email from LinkedIn, but it can be found on myriad sites. No reply from CAS though...

Truly Shameful.

https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...5hvzjBpVy0ly70

well, on the plus side, if you Google “raf pilot” on an image search, you get pages and pages of white males. So feel free to take your snowflake self to any of those pictures…

NutLoose 2nd May 2022 18:32

Sigh, still using Pilots as the face of the RAF when it is a team effort..

Ken Scott 2nd May 2022 18:39


Sigh, still using Pilots as the face of the RAF when it is a team effort..
Nutloose, you know it’s all about pilots…!! (Well, the film anyway).

reds & greens 2nd May 2022 18:51

So glad I came out (wish I hadn't said that) in 2013.
on the outside, looking in, it's shameful.

MPN11 2nd May 2022 18:58

Pilots … it was ever thus. That’s all The Public know. Whenever I say I was in the RAF, the immediate response is “Were you a Pilot?” … and the lights dim when I say “No”. Now I don’t even mention my irrelevant 30 years of commissioned service: I just enjoy the Pension, as does my Admin (Sec) OH.

As for the Tweet … V.O.M.I.T. 🤮

Marly Lite 2nd May 2022 22:19

Baldeep. Indeed. This is the racist sexist coddswallop those serving have to put up with. Did a whole day of listening to some idiot from High Wycombe the other day, implying that white males were the root of all evil, whilst letting loose that she had joined the airforce under fraudulent terms and was gaining a comission without undertaking any oficer training.
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/ima...5hvzjBpVy0ly70[/QUOTE]

ORAC 2nd May 2022 22:31

Discrimination and prejudice - because so few male white pilots achieve high rank in the RAF…

BEagle 2nd May 2022 23:38

I'm surprised that even Wiggy the Woke would allow some claptrap like that to appear in print. Sarah, you need to tell the 'Air Media and Communications Project Manager' that such nonsense simply won't wash.

Even though I'm long out of the Service, I came across this woke 'inclusivity' rubbish recently from an Air Officer. I should have told him of the words of a senior officer many years ago "I don't go along with this pathetic political correctness - in my day we just wanted to join the RAF to fly green aeroplanes which kill people!".

Anyone volunteering to be the 'RAF face' for Top Gun: Maverick (do get the title correct!) would surely never live it down afterwards!

ICATQ 2nd May 2022 23:42

Although I am a white, male, spanner chucker, I self-identify as a non-white, non-specific gender, pilot. Do I get the job?

minigundiplomat 2nd May 2022 23:42


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11224316)
I'm surprised that even Wiggy the Woke would allow some claptrap like that to appear in print. Sarah, you need to tell the 'Air Media and Communications Project Manager' that such nonsense simply won't wash.

Even though I'm long out of the Service, I came across this woke 'inclusivity' rubbish recently from an Air Officer. I should have told him of the words of a senior officer many years ago "I don't go along with this pathetic political correctness - in my day we just wanted to join the RAF to fly green aeroplanes which kill people!".

Anyone volunteering to be the 'RAF face' for Top Gun: Maverick (do get the title correct!) would surely never live it down afterwards!

i’m in agreement with Beagle - not sure which one of us will be more shocked.

Barksdale Boy 3rd May 2022 00:46

I reckon BEagle's last sentence hits the nail squarely on the head.

Bob Viking 3rd May 2022 04:42

My view.
 
Whilst I pray the email is a wind-up I find it as unsurprising as it is unpleasant.

There’s not really much else to say.

Nutloose, whilst I hear where you’re coming from with your ‘one team, one fight’ viewpoint I think, for a Topgun related event, I’m sure even you must concede that a pilot (RN vs RAF debate aside) is probably required.

BV

Old-Duffer 3rd May 2022 05:30

57 years ago, a friend appeared as a pilot in the advertisement: " A week in the life of ????? - RAF pilot" - he still gets reminded of it.

Any person tempted to apply for the latest rubbish should think again - if white was selected, they would never live it down and if they are of a different hue, would also find themselves embarrassed. Perhaps a cardboard mockup of aircrew of different colour and gender would actually show the 'Sarah' to find another job! Silly arse!

Old Duffer
(White , straight male, unreconstructed and no idea what pronouns are (GCE 'O' level english failed))

HOVIS 3rd May 2022 05:35

Why are the Air Force getting involved? Isn't this 'Naval Aviator' territory? 😁

FantomZorbin 3rd May 2022 06:18

At first I thought it was a wind-up ... alas FZjr, a serving officer, reports that the operational base where he is is well beyond the 'u-bend'. The Goon Show would have a field day. :mad:

charliegolf 3rd May 2022 07:51

Sarah gonna need a bigger boat, methinks. The OFC is so easily triggered.

CG


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