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ORAC 15th Feb 2022 12:45

RAF P-8 breaks the sound barrier
 
Hmmm - one of those secret supersonic P-8s again….


KonfusedofKinloss 15th Feb 2022 19:01

A bit more research needed at the Daily Record I believe....

Scots anti-submarine plane takes off causing ‘sonic boom’ felt across UK - Daily Record

Toadstool 16th Feb 2022 18:28


Originally Posted by KonfusedofKinloss (Post 11184782)
A bit more research needed at the Daily Record I believe....

Scots anti-submarine plane takes off causing ‘sonic boom’ felt across UK - Daily Record

Funnily enough, the report has been taken down. So many errors in the headline, never mind the article.

NutLoose 16th Mar 2022 18:33

RAF P-8 breaks the sound barrier
 
According to Daily Record :}

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/news...nd-sonic-boom/


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charliegolf 16th Mar 2022 18:39

Did I dream up the story/legend/myth that a VC10 crew left the climb setting on a bit long and, er, got a bit speedy?

I do dream up such scenarios... Age.

CG

sealo0 16th Mar 2022 18:39


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11200913)

bit early for the 1st of April

BEagle 16th Mar 2022 19:14


Did I dream up the story/legend/myth that a VC10 crew left the climb setting on a bit long and, er, got a bit speedy?
If you did, 'twas utter bolleaux!

Top West 50 16th Mar 2022 19:26

I think I came close in a Victor B1. On high speed shallow dive without mach strut, instructor said, "look out!" Did we used to go as fast as .98? Someone will remember. Anyway, straight from training I looked out - of the window and lost track of the mach meter momentarily. Whatever the speed it recovered beautifully.

charliegolf 16th Mar 2022 20:36


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11200936)
If you did, 'twas utter bolleaux!

Bit sharp! Piles at you again?

CG

Bksmithca 16th Mar 2022 20:46


Originally Posted by sealo0 (Post 11200918)
bit early for the 1st of April

I would have to agree, hard to believe a 737-800 would be capable of breaking the sound barrier

meleagertoo 16th Mar 2022 21:01


Originally Posted by Bksmithca (Post 11200989)
I would have to agree, hard to believe a 737-800 would be capable of breaking the sound barrier

Particularly during take-off!

Consol 16th Mar 2022 21:27

I was talking to a retired Bucaneer crew member once and I asked could go supersonic. He said it wasn't meant to but he had been supersonic in one....

JEM60 16th Mar 2022 22:07

A D.C.8 Airliner went supersonic many years ago. Hard to believe, but it WAS true!.

chevvron 17th Mar 2022 00:48


Originally Posted by JEM60 (Post 11201029)
A D.C.8 Airliner went supersonic many years ago. Hard to believe, but it WAS true!.

I thought it was a Convair CV990; the one with 'speed pods' like the Victor had.

Commander Taco 17th Mar 2022 03:10


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11201100)
I thought it was a Convair CV990; the one with 'speed pods' like the Victor had.

Nope. It was a DC8 that was later delivered to Canadian Pacific Airlines.

tdracer 17th Mar 2022 18:14


Originally Posted by Commander Taco (Post 11201145)
Nope. It was a DC8 that was later delivered to Canadian Pacific Airlines.

It was done during the DC-8 flight test program - intentionally. Reportedly a bit of a 'one-up' jab at the 707, since even if Boeing had duplicated it, they'd still be second...

I looked at a whole lot of 747-8 flight test data showing Mach numbers above 0.99 during flutter testing (granted, not sure how accurate the instrumentation was at that speed). Never saw anything over 1.00, but surely it wouldn't have taken much to do it.

chevvron 17th Mar 2022 18:17

But the Victor did go supersonic a few times (once with 4 Lightnings in tow) ; there was a thread on here about a year ago.

VictorGolf 17th Mar 2022 18:26

Myth or not I heard the VC-10 supersonic story from an East African pilot. Apparently it was on an acceptance flight and the crew agreed to see "What will she do".True or not I still loved being SLF in their VC-10s.

LOMCEVAK 17th Mar 2022 19:49

One consideration here, which has been mentioned briefly above, is true M versus indicated M. Static source errors and pitot errors are often very large in the transonic region so true M could be significantly greater or less than what is indicated. I know of one Tornado ADV trial during which the crew thought that they had remained subsonic but booms had been dropped over the Somerset levels and surrounding area!

I have seen about 0.97M in a Buccaneer (c. ISA -35C at low level) but would like to hear about someone going supersonic because tailplane power was very low at high M, hence why complete loops were not cleared in case you went too high M on the down vertical!

Timelord 18th Mar 2022 04:18

Lomcevak, R. .k P. . . ..ps insisted he took me supersonic (indicated) ( medium level shallow dive) on a Buccaneer trip at the end of my tour despite my reluctance. What really surprised me was that he asked Scottish for clearance!


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