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RAFEngO74to09 3rd Feb 2022 17:37

Su-57 - Photos
 
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MPN11 3rd Feb 2022 18:09

Cute. Is it any good?

Jhieminga 3rd Feb 2022 18:31

Interesting arrangement on those leading edge flaps. Looks like they could act as an airbrake too.

GeeRam 3rd Feb 2022 18:43


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11179413)
Cute. Is it any good?

Who knows....

It does however make the most errie sounding and loud 'blue-note', as seen on flypasts over Moscow last year.


:ooh:

Obba 3rd Feb 2022 20:25

Looks very nice - plenty of info on it at wiki....

tartare 3rd Feb 2022 20:52

Pretty - bit of a stretch to call it stealth though - gestures towards more like.
Half-baked F-22ski.
Lovely big wide fat hot smoky Saturn exhausts...

Courtney Mil 3rd Feb 2022 23:03

C W Lemoine has some interesting thoughts on it; just his impressions rather than news because there isn’t that much around:


zambonidriver 4th Feb 2022 06:46


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 11179423)
Interesting arrangement on those leading edge flaps. Looks like they could act as an airbrake too.

Yep - indeed unusual. I'd really be curious to learn more about how they operate.

typerated 4th Feb 2022 07:18

It has a lot of wing!

Modern Russian and Chinese fighters (SU-27 onwards) seem optimised for low speed turning fights.

Are they still applying the wrong lessons from Vietnam or are their long range missiles a bit bobbins?

SpringHeeledJack 4th Feb 2022 07:26

Looks like a mini Firefox, Clint Eastwood waiting for his call up.

Downwind.Maddl-Land 4th Feb 2022 07:29

What a handsome looking machine! "If it looks right, it (usually!) flies right!"

Last I read, recent generation Russian missiles were far from 'Bobbins' - rather quite good I seem to recall.

typerated 4th Feb 2022 07:55


Originally Posted by Downwind.Maddl-Land (Post 11179636)

Last I read, recent generation Russian missiles were far from 'Bobbins' - rather quite good I seem to recall.

]I'm sure your right - just seems the aircraft are not optimised to use them - or at least fight a different fight

Buster Hyman 4th Feb 2022 08:08

"Looks like a Fish, moves like a Fish, steers like a Cow"

sandiego89 4th Feb 2022 12:18


Originally Posted by zambonidriver (Post 11179619)
Yep - indeed unusual. I'd really be curious to learn more about how they operate.

me too, went to wiki and found this: .......The aircraft incorporates thrust vectoring and large leading edge root extensions that shift the aerodynamic center forward, increasing static instability and maneuverability. These extensions have adjustable leading–edge vortex controllers (LEVCONs) designed to control the generated vortices and can provide trim and improve high angle of attack behaviour, including a quick stall recovery if the thrust vectoring system fails.[83] To air-brake, the ailerons deflect up while the flaperons deflect down and the vertical stabilisers toe inward to increase drag......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-57





dead_pan 4th Feb 2022 14:11


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 11179423)
Interesting arrangement on those leading edge flaps. Looks like they could act as an airbrake too.

One would they would stay in the neutral position in the event of any hydraulic issues, otherwise could be a tad challenging...

ROC man 5th Feb 2022 11:34


Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 11179634)
Looks like a mini Firefox, Clint Eastwood waiting for his call up.

Just remember to think in Russian.....


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