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Scamp 4th Feb 2022 07:57

Honest question, in these tri service times surely it's one office looking at uniform across Navy, Army, RAF and Marines. Why the radical approach to the RAF?

gcal 4th Feb 2022 11:44

So much fuss over a set of rags.
I am surprised as I had previously thought the only concern of the RAF was the colour of the curtains.

gcal 4th Feb 2022 11:46


Originally Posted by 207592 (Post 11179615)
Dressed in appropriate workwear, quite right. Coveralls for engineers; something warm for those of airfields, and shirt and slacks for those in offices? Is there need for hoodies and tracksuit bottoms?

'Slacks'....I'll just rush off and check the century ;)

Scamp 4th Feb 2022 12:00

Slacks with elasticated waistband of course!

London Eye 4th Feb 2022 12:57


Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11179475)
To make it more appealing to the next generation ? surely the basics of the military stand without change, why is the system making these choices? and who advises them.


Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11179645)
Honest question, in these tri service times surely it's one office looking at uniform across Navy, Army, RAF and Marines. Why the radical approach to the RAF?

I'll tell you what Scamp, they are both reasonable questions... but why not make it easier for us and just tell us what sort of article you are trying to write!
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toratoratora 4th Feb 2022 13:23


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11179572)
That says more about you than us......

Yes, it does-the same way I don’t display my job title away from work, unlike some.

Scamp 4th Feb 2022 20:06


Originally Posted by London Eye (Post 11179751)
I'll tell you what Scamp, they are both reasonable questions... but why not make it easier for us and just tell us what sort of article you are trying to write!
.

​​​​​​​Article? care to expand?

uffington sb 4th Feb 2022 20:37

Wasn’t there a trial in the early 70’s of light blue to replace the original KD. Thankfully they settled on ‘stone’, which is what I was issued with when posted to RAF Gan.

BEagle 4th Feb 2022 21:58

There was a slightly later trial, I heard.....which included blue suede bondhu boots!

Stone won the day!

Did anyone actually spend their 'KD allowance" on KD??

NutLoose 5th Feb 2022 00:41

Stone that rapidly changed colour when working on aircraft never to look the same again.

Old-Duffer 5th Feb 2022 06:02

Yes Beagle, I spent my KD allowance on KD, however, as I had several 'KD wearing posts' one after the other, I quickly found that I needed to dip into my own pocket. I made a mistake of buying some KD in UK before my first trip and arriving in it. At HQFEAF, I was introduced to a charming (much older WRAF) officer, who was told to take me to Changi Village and get some real stuff sorted. In my third jaunt I acquired a No: 6 - the smartest piece of kit the RAF ever had IMHO. The downside was that I was then promptly appointed O i/c the station Guard of Honour.

Being of 'modest stature - alright, I'm a shortarse' - I was given my jungle greens by a friendly Ghurkha officer (2nd/7th GR in those days) and for many years, all my RAF kit came from Au Wai Lam, the station tailor at Kai Tak. My big regret was that I never got a 'genuine' Bates SD hat.
Old Duffer

MPN11 5th Feb 2022 08:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11180004)
Stone that rapidly changed colour when working on aircraft never to look the same again.

Not to mention the endless variations of shade and colour, depending o the original source. I remember a colleague at Tengah who had HK-made KD that had faded to almost white over time. My Tengah Village stuff retained a very light brown hue . Like the Army, very few of us seemed to wear the same colour/

ShyTorque 5th Feb 2022 09:49


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11179572)
That says more about you than us......

One of the sharpest reminders I’ve ever heard was when a colleague forgot to salute the RAF Wing Commander Padre!

ShyTorque 5th Feb 2022 09:50


Originally Posted by fitliker (Post 11178951)
Some of the flameproof / fire retardant kit I have worn over the years lost it efficacy after being washed too many times . An excuse some smellies and stinkers would take not to wash very often .

Crikey…how often did you test it? :eek:

ShyTorque 5th Feb 2022 09:57


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11179976)
There was a slightly later trial, I heard.....which included blue suede bondhu boots!

Stone won the day!

Did anyone actually spend their 'KD allowance" on KD??

You would soon get fed up of telling people not to step on those!

I’m too young to have been given a KD allowance. We got issued with KD on arrival at Airport Camp in Belize, but you had to be very careful which “Clothing Store” door you tried to open…... those who went there will know why.

(I don’t think I ever actually wore any KD though. I’ve still got some in the loft, over forty plus years later. It never fitted me then, no chance now!)

Thud_and_Blunder 5th Feb 2022 13:16

Same age, near enough, as me Shy - and I had the allowance for my stint in HK. I can vouch that the Au Wai Lam No.6 was the smartest thing I ever wore in the service of HM - smart being a relative term in my case, of course.

popeye107 5th Feb 2022 17:54

Plenty of old boys here, anyone still serving? It’s about them really, not those in the waiting room.

MPN11 5th Feb 2022 18:11


Originally Posted by popeye107 (Post 11180304)
Plenty of old boys here, anyone still serving? It’s about them really, not those in the waiting room.

Oh, I say, that’s a bit harsh! Please remember that a fighting Service is also about History and Traditions, and we are some of that! :=

popeye107 5th Feb 2022 18:24


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11180309)
Oh, I say, that’s a bit harsh! Please remember that a fighting Service is also about History and Traditions, and we are some of that! :=

Thank you for your service, sir or ma’am.

muppetofthenorth 5th Feb 2022 20:08


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11180309)
Oh, I say, that’s a bit harsh! Please remember that a fighting Service is also about History and Traditions, and we are some of that! :=

Nothing there to say they were wrong, though...

None of this of about those no longer serving. It's about those just in and those who will be in through the next 20 years while the old and bold are being eaten by worms.

Yeah, there's history. And that's written in books. It needs to be remembered, it doesn't need to be relived.


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