Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11176424)
Fair enough. From another discussion on another forum that 'ramp strike' would seem to be IT. I have experience in an A4G in a NIGHT RAMP STRIKE during my second NOT night deck landing - high all the way <sigh> Story told somewhere here I imagine, also story in PDF form.
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USN confirms authenticity of photo & video shown in this prune thread:
Navy confirms photo and video of F-35 crash on USS Carl Vinson are real (taskandpurpose.com) F-35C GRR ARGH RAMP STRIKE USS Carl Vinson VFA-147 'Argonauts' 24 Jan 2022 |
UKs Daily Mail Online smashing the graphic accuracy again ....
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5556a849d6.jpg |
Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11176728)
USN confirms authenticity of photo & video shown in this prune thread:
Navy confirms photo and video of F-35 crash on USS Carl Vinson are real (taskandpurpose.com) F-35C GRR ARGH RAMP STRIKE USS Carl Vinson VFA-147 'Argonauts' 24 Jan 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=604Bt_BHT8U |
No wonder it crashed if that graphic is correct. Everything is the wrong way round.:eek:
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Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 11176964)
is that tight a base turn normal, or normal for F35? I assume so but seems a much shorter final than earlier types.
:D POWER POWER POWER - DON'T CLIMB! :eek: |
F/A-18E Super Hornet Landing on the Boat "650 mph approach to carrier break and landing in a F/A-18E Super Hornet. Maneuver referred to by pilots as the "$hit Hot Break"
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One of many possibilities according to this HIlarious WebSite: The US F-35C fell into the sea due to strong electromagnetic interference?Russian expert: J-16D has this ability, the People's Liberation Army can do it - iNEWS (inf.news)
"...However, a third possibility that caused the F-35C fighter to crash soon appeared. This view is that the electronic fighters of the Chinese Air Force use strong electromagnetic interference. The F-35C lost control and crashed while landing.... ...The automatic system for F-35C landing is a magic carpet system specially developed by the U.S. Navy in 2015. After an upgrade in 2017, it is said that even if the fighter plane fails, the magic carpet system can also control the F-35C fighter to automatically land on the on the aircraft carrier. Therefore, Russian experts believe that the electronic jamming pod of the J-16D may have attacked the magic carpet system. After the magic carpet system was interfered, it gave wrong flight data. The F-35C flew according to the wrong flight data and hit the aircraft carrier...." |
Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11177423)
One of many possibilities according to this HIlarious WebSite: The US F-35C fell into the sea due to strong electromagnetic interference?Russian expert: J-16D has this ability, the People's Liberation Army can do it - iNEWS (inf.news)
"...However, a third possibility that caused the F-35C fighter to crash soon appeared. This view is that the electronic fighters of the Chinese Air Force use strong electromagnetic interference. The F-35C lost control and crashed while landing.... |
A RUMOUR! going around is that the F-35C pilot had a medical issue then - attempting to get back quickly - had the ramp strike. MEANWHILE:
The REAL Truth About LSOs ['greenie boards' and grades and DL techniques revealed] Who are Those Guys? Navy F/A-18 Pilots Explain Landing Signal Officers |
Japan Coast Guard Issues Salvage Warning in South China Sea as Navy Prepares F-35C Recovery Operations 31 Jan 2022 https://news.usni.org/2022/01/31/jap...ery-operations
"...It’s unclear what units the Navy will employ to recover the fighter, which could be in waters up to 30,000 feet deep depending on the exact location of where the fighter settled. he Navy has one salvage ship, USNS Salvor (ARS-52), in U.S. 7th Fleet but the Navy has other salvage and recovery systems that could be installed on commercial salvage ships or offshore support vessels." https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....beffd6d5e0.gif https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upl...5.23.36-PM.png |
going around is that the F-35C pilot had a medical issue then - attempting to get back quickly https://www.defensenews.com/air/2021...stem-problems/ |
Most viewers - unless they are really interested in NavAv and can stomach the endless talk of the host MOOCH (rather than allowing his guests to speak) then don't bother with this video. Some interesting tidbits. The 'controlling LSO' was injured during the ramp strike (probably by bits of the breaking undercarriage but just my guess remember). This is a long video so bring a packed lunch and a wee bottle. :}
Was it the Pilot or the Airplane? Veteran Naval Aviators Analyze the Latest F-35 Crash |
Originally Posted by SpazSinbad;11178610}
[b Was it the Pilot or the Airplane? Veteran Naval Aviators Analyze the Latest F-35 Crash[/b]
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Pith is a virtue is some cases, and I'm with Ewan insofar as I looked at "this is an hour of what?" so I could not take more than a few minutes before I realized that I will never get that time back.
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Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11177218)
F/A-18E Super Hornet Landing on the Boat "650 mph approach to carrier break and landing in a F/A-18E Super Hornet. Maneuver referred to by pilots as the "$hit Hot Break"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkl_voDH7A Great stuff Incomprehensible anyone would add such an obnoxious sound track |
Sounds like a generic uboob music soundtrack. Before YouBend was taken over by gargle one could - with flare - add music to otherwise boring videos of yore. So this is my - but I like it - ob nauseous - video with soundtrack. For some reason I cannot fathom gargle cut the last bit of da tool musick (diff trak from same al bum). :}
At 5min 10sec the A4G has a TAXI ONE WIRE which is still kinda scary. Early I think the one that rolls on port drop tank during arrest was put upright to taxi out of the landing area with only minor damage to the tank and the wingtip (got buffed out by the BUFFER). At the start the A4G pilot closing the canopy is the one going into the oggin from a bad catshot. Barry Evans was lucky to NOT have been able to eject as it was calculated he would not have survived but youse see him RESCUED by the HELO to stand upright taking off his flight gear. RANFAA A4G Skyhawk HMAS Melbourne Early 1970s :rolleyes: |
ex-A4G Side Number 871 (second hand A-4F USN) fifty years ago does the OOPsie in viddy and still flying today with DRAKEN USA.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cba3331b0e.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....97bf106014.jpg |
Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11179049)
Sounds like a generic uboob music soundtrack. Before YouBend was taken over by gargle one could - with flare - add music to otherwise boring videos of yore. So this is my - but I like it - ob nauseous - video with soundtrack. For some reason I cannot fathom gargle cut the last bit of da tool musick (diff trak from same al bum). :}
At 5min 10sec the A4G has a TAXI ONE WIRE which is still kinda scary. Early I think the one that rolls on port drop tank during arrest was put upright to taxi out of the landing area with only minor damage to the tank and the wingtip (got buffed out by the BUFFER). At the start the A4G pilot closing the canopy is the one going into the oggin from a bad catshot. Barry Evans was lucky to NOT have been able to eject as it was calculated he would not have survived but youse see him RESCUED by the HELO to stand upright taking off his flight gear. RANFAA A4G Skyhawk HMAS Melbourne Early 1970s :rolleyes: |
Waist Cat? There was only one steam catapult aboard HMAS Melbourne. During the early A4G era it was upgraded with some bits from scrapped BONAVENTURE to have a cat stroke of 100 feet with a strop catcher so we see the cat crew running up to the catcher for strop retrieval. I'll post a SLOMO video. Generally the lateral G was 6, sometimes a bit more at more than usual heavier weights etc. The WAR SHOT at 9G (A-4 stressed to this level) was never experienced by a HUman AFAIK but the lead sled CHLOE would have been tested alongside wharf in Sydney Harbour.
A4G Skyhawk & S2E Tracker Slow Motion Deck Ops Tests aboard HMAS Melbourne in Early 1970s SLOW MOTION Catapults A4Gs 886 & 889 A4G Arrest HMAS Melbourne & Hook Runner Slow Motion NAVY CATAPULT TEST - HMAS MELBOURNE - SOUND [lead sled CHLOE] |
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