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albatross 18th Jan 2022 18:05

RCAF retires the Buffalo
 
Sad to see her go.
An exceptional aircraft, especially in the SAR role.


NutLoose 18th Jan 2022 18:44

Crikey I thought they went years ago, is the turbo prop conversion based on the civi one where the guys son died on the final certification flight, the control lock had been left in and it climbed rapidly, stalled and sadly went in killing them all.

There is a film of it on you tube :( the owner gave up on the project after watching his son die in front of him, absolutely tragic.

India Four Two 18th Jan 2022 19:00

What a nice video. If I had joined CASARA (Civil Air Search and Rescue Association) sooner than last year, I might have had a ride in a Buffalo. Too late now.

NutLoose, the tragic accident you are referring to involved a turbine conversion of the DHC-4 Caribou. The Buffalo, although similar looking, is a completely different and bigger aircraft.

fitliker 19th Jan 2022 00:05

The standing joke in Comox was : What is brown and smelly and comes out the rear of a Buffalo ?
The Airborne :).

NutLoose 19th Jan 2022 02:45


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 11171788)
What a nice video. If I had joined CASARA (Civil Air Search and Rescue Association) sooner than last year, I might have had a ride in a Buffalo. Too late now.

NutLoose, the tragic accident you are referring to involved a turbine conversion of the DHC-4 Caribou. The Buffalo, although similar looking, is a completely different and bigger aircraft.

Thanks, that explains it.

TBM-Legend 19th Jan 2022 03:13

There was, of course, the spectacular Buffalo crash at Farnborough in 1984...

treadigraph 19th Jan 2022 08:13

I recall seeing one passing through Gatwick in the 1970s on delivery to the Mauritanian Air Force or similar. My memory has the aircraft lifting off quickly and with plenty of flap then climbing in a very flat attitude, possibly even slightly nose down. Rather impressive!

India Four Two 19th Jan 2022 08:49

treadders,

See this video at 9:45. Lots of flap and no rotation whatsoever!


Cornish Jack 19th Jan 2022 09:12

TBM-=Legend - that was my instant recall also ! Not the least impressive was the crew almost nonchalantly exiting as the dust settled ! For a while thereafter, firm arrivals were described as "doing a Buffalo" !

Old-Duffer 19th Jan 2022 11:46

Whilst in Borneo (1966/7) I was fortunate to have many trips in the Malaysian Air Force Caribou. It always seemed to me to have plenty of power and it was an embarrassment when the RAF brought in the Andover (replacing the Twin Pin). The short field performance was very impressive and I assume that the Andover was a political decision - like so many others, which handicap the armed forces, to keep some politician happy and his/her constituents employed.
Old Duffer

Dave Gittins 19th Jan 2022 12:41

I remember the completely baffled look on Bill Loverseed's face when he climbed out of the wreck.. I'd been at Farnborough the day before so only saw it on the TV.

A Britts pilot I knew who been in the RAF with Bill said they'd always had suspicions about his eyesight.

Compass Call 19th Jan 2022 13:56

NutLoose
The Buffalo was built as a turboprop. Perhaps you are thinking of the Caribou which was the predecessor to the Buffalo?

chevvron 19th Jan 2022 15:58


Originally Posted by Dave Gittins (Post 11172156)
I remember the completely baffled look on Bill Loverseed's face when he climbed out of the wreck.. I'd been at Farnborough the day before so only saw it on the TV.

A Britts pilot I knew who been in the RAF with Bill said they'd always had suspicions about his eyesight.

I was walking up the stairs of Farnborough Tower; heard a bang and looked out to see the flames subsiding.

albatross 19th Jan 2022 18:25

You are referring ,I believe, to the DHC-4 Caribou not the DHC-5 Buffalo.
Yes the Caribou turbine conversion accident was a very sad and avoidable tragedy.


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11171782)
Crikey I thought they went years ago, is the turbo prop conversion based on the civi one where the guys son died on the final certification flight, the control lock had been left in and it climbed rapidly, stalled and sadly went in killing them all.

There is a film of it on you tube :( the owner gave up on the project after watching his son die in front of him, absolutely tragic.


MightyGem 19th Jan 2022 19:27


MG 20th Jan 2022 06:52

The CC-295 Kingfisher replacing it will be a very different beast. I see that there’s a gap before it becomes operational.

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...-aircraft.html

N707ZS 20th Jan 2022 07:12

After retirement what is there fait. It seems like many years since the first batch were retired and a few flew through the UK to Zimbabwe.

Mogwi 20th Jan 2022 13:42


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 11171911)
There was, of course, the spectacular Buffalo crash at Farnborough in 1984...

A lucky escape! I believe it was a slight headwind that suddenly became a slight tailwind. I was inbound from Yeovilton at the time and was advised to land on the western end of the runway!

Mog

albatross 20th Jan 2022 14:40

Buffalo at Farnborough.
 

Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 11172308)

I remember the commentator's remark: “Ooh, bit of a hard landing there!”

chevvron 20th Jan 2022 15:23


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11172681)
I remember the commentator's remark: “Ooh, bit of a hard landing there!”

Only the controllers in the tower at the time actually witnessed it; the rest of us crammed into our tiny rest room to watch every time it was repeated!
As I recall, a piece of propellor blade became embedded in the canopy of a helicopter in static.
Next day, the ELT was triggered (by persons unknown) and it took us a hell of a search to stop it meanwhile, the work crew worked well into the night to restore the runway surface.


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