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DuckDodgers 26th Nov 2021 14:48

Interim Red Air Aggressor Training
 
So it looks like the PQQ for this interim capability was published today. Very little detail contained within regards to what is required beyond stating that the platform must have an air-to-air radar and radar warning receiver equipment. Has anyone seen the actual contract notice or statement of requirement that may provide some greater detail?


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Foghorn Leghorn 29th Nov 2021 01:10

More to the point, which companies are bidding!?

DuckDodgers 30th Nov 2021 05:20


Originally Posted by Foghorn Leghorn (Post 11148520)
More to the point, which companies are bidding!?

I think the real question is that of who has capacity from within existing fleets that isn’t already contractually committed? That is of course unless someone hasn’t acquired a fleet of aircraft specifically for this interim programme. Will be interesting to watch.

Bengo 30th Nov 2021 07:46


Originally Posted by Foghorn Leghorn (Post 11148520)
More to the point, which companies are bidding!?

We will only know that once Treasury and MoD have read the answers to the PQQ and decided whose replies they like enough to want in the bidding round. If it gets that far. Should it look too expensive after PQQ it will be back to the word processor.

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Nil_Drift 30th Nov 2021 13:23

According to the UK Defence Journal blog the timeline is very sporty - by Summer '22 with approval from the CAA and MAA. That should narrow it down a bit.

Any ideas to buy the 100 Sqn Hawks and contract them back to the RAF has been scuppered by the air-to-air radar requirement.

Perhaps it's an attempt to flog off the Tranche 1 Typhoons and get a contractor to fly them; that will help to reduce the JPANs at Lossiemouth and save in the short term as pilots will ET and join the new company. But then the hard-pressed TG1 techies will jump ship as well ... not so good.

Foghorn Leghorn 30th Nov 2021 13:56


Originally Posted by Nil_Drift (Post 11149333)
According to the UK Defence Journal blog the timeline is very sporty - by Summer '22 with approval from the CAA and MAA. That should narrow it down a bit.

Any ideas to buy the 100 Sqn Hawks and contract them back to the RAF has been scuppered by the air-to-air radar requirement.

Perhaps it's an attempt to flog off the Tranche 1 Typhoons and get a contractor to fly them; that will help to reduce the JPANs at Lossiemouth and save in the short term as pilots will ET and join the new company. But then the hard-pressed TG1 techies will jump ship as well ... not so good.

Unfortunately, that won’t happen as Typhoon is far too expensive to run as COCO Red Air.

DuckDodgers 21st Dec 2021 14:06

This appears to have gone quiet, anyone got an update?

ShyTorque 21st Dec 2021 17:31

Did the Russians get the contract?

_SpinFlight_ 15th Jan 2022 13:25

Appears the answer is below judging by the recruitment drive for Fast Jet Captains, SE Techs, Egress, Av, and Mechs.

Draken Europe Job Search


tutgby 15th Jan 2022 16:04

Any rumours on the platform? Asking for a friend…

GeeRam 15th Jan 2022 16:25


Originally Posted by tutgby (Post 11170429)
Any rumours on the platform? Asking for a friend…

Coincidental with Draken's purchasing of a number of the recently retired Norwegian AF F-16 fleet last month...perhaps.


_SpinFlight_ 17th Jan 2022 12:37


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 11170434)
Coincidental with Draken's purchasing of a number of the recently retired Norwegian AF F-16 fleet last month...perhaps.

Doubtful, I suspect it will be something Hawk like from within their compendium of aircraft.

David Thompson 17th Jan 2022 22:51


Originally Posted by _SpinFlight_ (Post 11171183)
Doubtful, I suspect it will be something Hawk like from within their compendium of aircraft.

Aero L-159E ALCA's for instance ?

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 18th Jan 2022 11:09


Originally Posted by David Thompson (Post 11171405)
Aero L-159E ALCA's for instance ?

Indeed David. DRAKEN have updated their job spec to : Draken Europe are recruiting for a L159 Captain to be based at Teesside International Airport in the UK.

Bob Viking 18th Jan 2022 14:13

L-159 vs Hawk T1
 
That’s a real upgrade isn’t it?! I’m sure the Typhoon and F35 guys will be delighted at the challenge.

BV

N707ZS 18th Jan 2022 14:20

When they say captain is he the senior guy in American terms and might they employ further pilots and ground staff.

teej013 18th Jan 2022 14:46

The Draken ads are for Fast jet Aircrew and Groundcrew, including Squippers, Riggers, Avionics & Egress.

Martin the Martian 18th Jan 2022 17:34

Still wondering who or what will replace 736 at Culdrose.

DuckDodgers 18th Jan 2022 20:26


Originally Posted by Martin the Martian (Post 11171750)
Still wondering who or what will replace 736 at Culdrose.

Project Vampire Phase 1 - the RN will not be getting a fast jet replacement. It will be Banshee or Mirach.

Foghorn Leghorn 18th Jan 2022 21:12


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11171667)
That’s a real upgrade isn’t it?! I’m sure the Typhoon and F35 guys will be delighted at the challenge.

BV

It’s a shame that the RAF won’t stump up the cash to pay for a more capable platform. Alas, with the money on offer in the contract, you get what you pay for.


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