When the USAF extended the Brize runway, did they ever consider the effect of having a railway across it? On the face of it, it is apparently a somewhat silly thing to do: if you have an aircraft needing an emergency landing and there's a train in the section, it may not be possible to stop the train in time.... At Ballykelly the track ran across the end of the runway: RAF Ballykelly opened in June 1941 during the Second World War as an airfield for RAF Coastal Command. In 1943, the main runway was extended and acquired an unusual characteristic in that it crossed an active railway line. Rules were put in place giving trains the right of way over landing aircraft. (Source: Wikipedia). |
Originally Posted by serf
(Post 11142957)
The Army are now based at Leuchars Station…
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...iven-new-name/ |
Originally Posted by Warmtoast
(Post 11142943)
My Record of Service (RAF Form 543R) that I requested a copy of quite a few years ago shows that I was posted to a "Unit" - not a Base or Station- see attached.
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The 1945 Google Earth image of Wyton contains the V Bomber dispersals, the V Bomber runway extension across the old Ramsey Road, and at least 7 Canberra aircraft. Suspect its much later than 1/1/1945
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Originally Posted by ZH875
(Post 11143051)
The 1945 Google Earth image of Wyton contains the V Bomber dispersals, the V Bomber runway extension across the old Ramsey Road, and at least 7 Canberra aircraft. Suspect its much later than 1/1/1945
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Not sure if true or not, But allegedly RAF Coltishall was originally going to be RAF Buxton but "they" were worried many would rock up in Derbyshire
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I'm loathe to contribute to these Jet Blast threads that keep appearing in the Mil Aviation forum, but in the Rock Ape world isn't Honington referred to as the Depot?
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https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e6e69dd6d0.jpg
York appears to have been a destination on the Brize Norton & Bampton to Carterton section of the Fairford Branch Line some 75 years ago..... |
Originally Posted by ZH875
(Post 11143051)
The 1945 Google Earth image of Wyton contains the V Bomber dispersals, the V Bomber runway extension across the old Ramsey Road, and at least 7 Canberra aircraft. Suspect its much later than 1/1/1945
Really you can see photos of 1945 stations?? please tell how do you do that. That is fascinating ! |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11142623)
When I was attached as a civvy, it was always to an RAF (name follows) and called a station, with a Staish.
My granddaughter, newly minted as RAF Regiment Reserve refers to RAF Honington as a base. I think that is an Americanism. Before I berate her, should I perhaps move with the times? I hope not. Anyway, she is bigger than I am [most people are]. For example emergency phone numbers around the world are different (eg 000 in Australia), however most countries have also 911 redirected to their local numbers, because kids watching movies and that's the only number they know. |
Originally Posted by vortexadminman
(Post 11143172)
Really you can see photos of 1945 stations?? please tell how do you do that. That is fascinating !
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Regarding "Staish". in use in RAFG in my Gutersloh prime c. 1970 but not before in Cyprus or UK.
My wartime RAF father 1939-45 used "Groupy". I think SWO or Swo-man has been around for yonks. But then yonks has had its day I suppose. |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 11143155)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e6e69dd6d0.jpg
York appears to have been a destination on the Brize Norton & Bampton to Carterton section of the Fairford Branch Line some 75 years ago..... |
I lived at R.A.F. Marham for five years and never heard it described as a "base"; there was a large U.S.A.F detachment there, so maybe that`s where the description "base" came from. R.A.F Lakenheath, Mildenhall etc. were totally U.S.A.F bases and descibed as such.
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Re naming of airfields and the nearest village. When I first went to Wattisham in 1970 the lady we rented a house from in Lavenham called it Ringshall airfield. As far as I remember the airfield was in an area halfway between the two villages. Only heard two or thre other people call it that and they were the older ones.
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I always thought that Watton was a rotten name.
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Originally Posted by Warmtoast
(Post 11142943)
My Record of Service (RAF Form 543R) that I requested a copy of quite a few years ago shows that I was posted to a "Unit" - not a Base or Station- see attached.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6aec98859f.jpg |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11143246)
I always thought that Watton was a rotten name.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 11143420)
Seven years there ... nice Station, uninspiring village! I wonder where the railway went?
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoo...&layers=10&b=7 |
Ah, I've also been stationed at stations which had on- and off-base married quarters and where a lot of people ended up being confined to camp...:rolleyes:
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Sometimes even more upsetting for the railwayman, though!
https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/do...efford1950.pdf |
Originally Posted by ZH875
(Post 11143439)
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LB - I understand RAF Station Honington is also the RAF Regiment Depot now?:) (A role previously fulfilled by RAF Catterick - now Marne Barracks as part of Catterick Garrison)
I believe Valley was briefly RAF Rhosneigr, the eponymous railway station being closer to the aerodrome. If I recall correctly, anyone alighting there would have risked waiting for the tide to go out on their journey between the two types of station. It was simpler idea being on one of 'HM ship's books' be it a steel, wooden, glassfibre or concrete one. |
Wildenrath while I was there in the 80s was often referred to as the "Camp".....
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In the sixties in the Ship Inn in Narborough, Norfolk, Marham was often referred to (by the locals) as 'the Drome' !
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In the 60s,70s and 80s my father used to refer to anywhere I was stationed as the "the drome".
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Not got my copy to hand, but I'm pretty sure that AP3003 (an official history of the RAF issued in the early 2000's) covered the naming of RAF Stations and it stated normally the Station was named after the parish within which the Station HQ was located. There were exceptions like Coltishall or Lindholme, The naming of RAF Stations after Train Stations is a myth.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 11142918)
But then go to Kent, and the entire county seems to be covered with 'cut and paste' imagery!
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Probably lots of photo recon photos though
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Sincere thanks to contributors: entertaining and informative.
I conclude that if granddaughter rock reservist rookie calls RAF Honington a base, I shall relax. She has been warned by me about "raff" and "plane" so I think we are OK there! |
Originally Posted by Shackeng
(Post 11143373)
Abingdon in ‘58! 47 or 53?
for landing. I remustered as an AQM (Loadmaster) in the summer of 1959 and was posted to 99 Sqn at Lyneham in September of that year. WT https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c08cd1906.png |
Originally Posted by Tengah Type
(Post 11142852)
And it was nearly always "RAF Stations", or American "Air bases". However RAF Marham was frequently termed "Mar-ham Air Base" in a mock American accent.
Balham, Gateway to the South - Wikipedia |
The R.A.F declined to name Odiham after its nearest railway station.
The RAF also declined to fund Odiham, probably why it’s more of a state of disrepair than a base. |
Always a Station! I was stationed was how I introduced my past life, never I was based!
Although most non military punters tend to ask “where was you based”. |
Originally Posted by Warmtoast
(Post 11144085)
VHF/DF operator in mobile DF vehicle (RV105) that provided cross bearings to Benson for aircraft on approach to Benson
for landing. I remustered as an AQM (Loadmaster) in the summer of 1959 and was posted to 99 Sqn at Lyneham in September of that year. WT https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c08cd1906.png |
Originally Posted by Warmtoast
(Post 11142943)
My Record of Service (RAF Form 543R) that I requested a copy of quite a few years ago shows that I was posted to a "Unit" - not a Base or Station- see attached.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6aec98859f.jpg
Originally Posted by Tengah Type
(Post 11142948)
Ken Scott #17 & MPN11 # 22
The name of the railway station by the South East (Brittania) gate on the RAF Brize Norton airfield boundary at the time the airfield was built was "Bampton" even though Bampton is 5 miles away. Carterton at that time was merely a crossroads with a shop and a few smallholdings established by Mr Carter. Brize Norton Parish and Village were well estabished centuries before. I have a map of the area dated 1828 showing Brize Norton and Bampton, but No Carterton. The railway station was renamed "Bampton and Brize Norton"in 1944 to reflect the new importance of the RAF station. The railway station closed in 1962. |
Originally Posted by Coltishall. loved it
(Post 11143104)
Not sure if true or not, But allegedly RAF Coltishall was originally going to be RAF Buxton but "they" were worried many would rock up in Derbyshire
On a slightly different tack, there was evidently a lot of confusion between HMS LEANDER and RFA OLEANDER, which was finally solved by renaming the latter as OLMEDA. Just don't get the dark blue started on whether you serve "in" or "on" a ship. Very broadly speaking, officers tend to say "in' and sailors "on", but for some reason no one referred to being in AISNE or in OPPORTUNE!:= Jack |
Nice dit, UJ and yet another fine example of Andrew Speak! During my brief time with the RN I constantly struggled with the language and conventions. At BRNC the concept of the Liberty Boat before being allowed to Go Ashore had me silently sniggering every time!
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When my father who had never left Sussex was called up to the RN in WW2 he was given a rail warrant to a training base. He suffered from a stutter, so when he got to London and said he was off to join the navy at Sss he was put on a train to Scotland, to Scapa Flow. He arrived at his true training base a week late, Butlins Skegness!
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Butlins Skegness, otherwise known as "HMS Royal Arthur" - even by Lord Haw Haw !
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