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tucumseh 1st Jul 2023 22:18


Originally Posted by Lordflasheart (Post 11460119)
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I've just received one of those advertising emails suggesting, based on my previous readings, that I purchase a book entitled - "A Noble Anger: The manslaughter of Corporal Jonathan Bayliss."

Made it seem like an opportune moment to ask -

Is it true that North Wales Police are or have been investigating the Bayliss case from a manslaughter and/or 'lying to the Coroner' pov ?

LFH


Affirmative. Since just before Xmas 2022. Following a formal complaint by the family, and a retired Air Marshall coming forward to confirm that a senior officer's evidence under oath was 'wrong'. MoD denied this but the evidence, in the form of a DFS report, was produced by a well-known company. His 'wrong' evidence, it is suggested, made the difference between the Coroner's finding of negligence, and one of gross negligence.


They also asked that Lincs Police be involved given the 12 or so common factors between Bayliss and Cunningham, as MoD had assured the Lincs Coroner in 2014 that the recommendations were being implemented. You may recall that Lincs Police conducted an investigation in 2011/12, but later distanced themselves from it; and will not release any information on their work, nor even acknowledge any form of report was written. When asked to look at this, the Independent Police complaints people ruled that Lincs Police were correct to say that one is 'not entitled' to make a complaint, unless one is an affected party. They upheld this a further twice.

North Wales Police then disagreed with Lincs and the Complaints people, accepted the Bayliss family's complaint, and appointed a Detective Chief Inspector; whose progress seems rather slow, perhaps because of......

The Coroner's actions are included in the complaint, as she told the family only to ask questions, about the time of the accident, of said senior officer. When he took the stand, as the final witness, he announced he would NOT be answering these questions, and she allowed this. The Inquest closed about 2 minutes after her ruling, leaving the family nowhere to go.

Hope this helps. All in the public domain.


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