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Checkmate: new Russian military a/c to be unveiled at MAKS
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The Lightningski II?
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The video makes clear that several squadrons around the world are eagerly waiting for it, including this one:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8762a12b05.png Ok... err what? |
Ah, the details! Funny how things like this creep into cyber-space, just like the marketing detail for interested Arab Nations.
Subtle? Stealthy? Not! |
Final clip before end title, pilot on right, USA buying it too? Could not enlarge to be sure.
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The UK and US might be waiting for it for altogether different reasons... :E
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Did you click on the video? How about the language option, or did you leave it in Russian?
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Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 11078150)
Ah, the details! Funny how things like this creep into cyber-space, just like the marketing detail for interested Arab Nations.
Subtle? Stealthy? Not! https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ad576e1ef.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....db81ffbc2.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....43644f14a.jpeg |
Possible ASCC names include "Flannel", "Flexbag", and "Flagwrap".
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Hope the same seamstress doesn't do parachutes...
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https://www.flightglobal.com/defence...144631.article
same picture so yes appears to be it. I wonder if BAe are checking for a leak ;) https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fc117a93b.jpeg looks very much like the Tempest. |
Longer wheelbase = more internal weapons stowage, though.
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Originally Posted by Vzlet
(Post 11079744)
Possible ASCC names include "Flannel", "Flexbag", and "Flagwrap".
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They could name it flabby after their leader, or flaccid.
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YF-23ski-vich...
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Well teaser trailer in advance of tomorrow roll out reminds me of Top Gun Maverick trailer
cheers |
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Originally Posted by Commando Cody
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Meanwhile, the Russians quietly have updated 80% of their nuclear arsena and are deploying Hypersonic Weapons for both offense and defense, l while the West has done......what?
Focus upon pronouns and diversity amongst the ranks at the direct cost to Operational Training and development of more effective fighting capability.....now what could possibly go wrong with that kind of thinking Come a Peer Conflict between adversaries like the Chinese or Russians.....or both.....how will that turnout? From a recent TV series....a bit of dialogue instructed the West plays Chess where the goal is to kill the opposing King.....but the Chinese play GO where the goal is to build the largest empire...not kill the King. Considering the actions of China and Russia.....was there some truth in that bit of dialogue? One thing for sure....the net effect of the improvement in the military might of Russia and China does pose a threat to the current Status Quo. |
Doesn't look overly stealthy to me, more like a V-tail F-16?
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I do get the impression that the Chinese in particular play the long game, whereas us in the West are preconditioned to think in 4- 5 year cycles? Maybe that is because we are used to all changing after every election? Therefore , nothing actually seems to get done.
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Well if it ever gets into production I know what the NATO reporting name should be:
The Fugly |
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https://www.defensenews.com/industry...-defense-expo/
See Russia’s new Checkmate fighter jet unveiled at defense expo https://breakingdefense.sites.breaki...an-it-deliver/ https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....762146a6d5.png |
Interestingly TASS published an article that the designers of the Checkmate "corrected the shortcomings of F-117". I'd say thats a bit... lame. They are really stating that Checkmate and F-117 are aircrafts of similar level.
I thought it was supposed to overcome F22 and F35. Here's a translation of the article. https://tass.ru/ekonomika/14166303 MOSCOW, TASS, MAR 24, 07:01 Updated 07:07 Checkmate will take into account the shortcomings of the American F-117A Nighthawk fighter According to the text of the patent, the shortcomings of the American stealth fighter are poor takeoff and landing characteristics, as well as insufficient stability and controllability of the aircraft. The developers of the new Russian single-engine fighter Checkmate, when creating it, took into account and corrected the shortcomings of the American stealth fighter Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk. This is stated in the text of the patent (available to TASS) for a light tactical aircraft (LTA), published by the Federal Service for Intellectual Property. The document compares the domestic LTS with the American Lockheed F-117A Nighthawk aircraft, which has low radar visibility. "However, the disadvantage of this aircraft is poor takeoff and landing characteristics, as well as insufficient stability and controllability of the aircraft," the text of the patent says. It emphasizes that the task of the Checkmate LTS developers was to eliminate the shortcomings of other well-known aircraft of a similar level. "Thus, the technical result, to which the claimed invention is directed, is to increase the stability and controllability of the aircraft without deteriorating the characteristics of radar visibility," the document says. About aircraft The F-117 is an American single-seat subsonic tactical stealth strike aircraft manufactured by Lockheed Martin. It was intended for covert penetration through the enemy's air defense system and attacks on strategically important ground targets. The first flight was made on June 18, 1981. 64 units produced, the last serial copy was delivered to the US Air Force in 1990. The aircraft participated in five armed conflicts. In 2008, aircraft of this type were completely withdrawn from service, both for financial reasons and due to the adoption of the F-22 Raptor. The reduction in visibility for the F-117 was mainly achieved due to the specific angular shape of the hull, built according to the concept of "reflector planes", composite and radar-absorbing materials and a special coating were also used. LTS Checkmate developed by the Sukhoi company (part of the United Aviation Corporation of the state corporation Rostec) was first presented at the MAKS-2021 air show. The foreign presentation of the fighter took place at the Dubai Airshow 2021 in the UAE. The first flight of the Checkmate is scheduled for 2023, and the start of series production is scheduled for 2025. Checkmate includes all the most advanced developments, including an open architecture for building in the interests of the customer and unique artificial intelligence technologies. The aircraft is made using stealth technologies, equipped with an intra-fuselage compartment for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. The payload weight exceeds seven tons. The fighter will be able to simultaneously hit up to six targets. The speed of a single-engine aircraft will be Mach 1.8, and the combat radius will be 3,000 km. |
Yeah - obviously the F-117 wasn't in the public domain in 1981, but if it had been I don't think Lockheed would have impressed anyone by claiming it corrected the shortcomings of the de Havilland Mosquito.
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Originally Posted by pasta
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Yeah - obviously the F-117 wasn't in the public domain in 1981, but if it had been I don't think Lockheed would have impressed anyone by claiming it corrected the shortcomings of the de Havilland Mosquito.
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The size of two spinning props I would think. The T11 on the other hand I remember as being very sneaky when head-on.
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Production to commence in 2027
Production of the Checkmate will commence in 2027...
https://www.flightglobal.com/defence...148705.article https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ac8697602e.jpg cheers |
Originally Posted by KiloB
(Post 11205228)
The size of two spinning props I would think. The T11 on the other hand I remember as being very sneaky when head-on.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ea483cc9db.jpg |
The Buccaneer was very difficult to see on radar. Mind you, that was because it was normally below 50-100ft.
More than one way to skin a cat…. |
G-KZ: Good afternoon Bournemouth, G-KZ, a Tiger Moth holding 4 miles north at 1500ft for a display slot of minute 50.
Bounrnemouth radar: Roger G-KZ, no contact on radar. G-KZ: That’s because I’m made of wood! |
Originally Posted by Gordon Brown
(Post 11082732)
Well if it ever gets into production I know what the NATO reporting name should be:
The Fugly |
Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
(Post 11232223)
Haha. If you refer to the dual seat Vampire then from my experience hearing ATC/talking to ATC GCA controllers complain it was bloody near impossible to see it in the rain. TIN wings & laminate balsa wooden fuselage - ah the BeeKnees radar return at certain angles. :}
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Originally Posted by MPN11
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Ah, the Vampitre T11 ... as flown by Marshall's pilots to train we GCA students, using the 2 MPN11 trucks at Sleap. I don't recall them being difficult to see, but perhaps part of our training was using the kit to its best advantage? I do remember on Talkdown giving one a 'radar advisory' on a large flock of birds about to cross the glide path ahead of him, so discrimination must have been fairly good.
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There were 'polarisers' or 'rain plates' that abated the effect of rain, albeit not completely. I operated the MPN11 in wet foggy Lincolnshire for a year or so without giving up!
However, we digress. Back to invisible Russian aircraft *cough* |
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Ha. At last I'm getting A GIST of who people were back in the day from this thread: The AN/FPN-36 Quad Radar - PPRuNe Forums
This was the GCA unit at NAS Nowra that I was referring to earlier: GCA (Quadradar) FPN-36. 3 page PDF attached from March 2022 SLIPSTREAM of the RAN FAAAA: https://issuu.com/slipstream2/docs/slipstream_mar_2022 https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....24e654c621.jpg |
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