The US intelligence community is reportedly giving the the Ghani regime 90 days before Kabul is overrun.
A US supported government that is monstrously corrupt and riddled with incompetence and nepotism rapidly falls after the US leaves. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, the only difference is it will be Blackhawks instead of Hueys evacuating the embassy...... |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
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In fact many of the Taliban positively WANT to be back in 7th Century Arabia..................
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Some others are reporting Kabul will fall in weeks ? But all reports are in agreement . It is when , not if Kabul falls again .
The support of the Khans and Stans for the Taliban has created a problem . The biggest irony will be when the Taliban seek to reclaim historical Afghanistan from the Areas that the British and Russians carved away from the old Afghanistan borders . Maybe the Russian troops and allies will protect some of the northern Stans for a while . But the Fakirs are playing a long game . They will wait and watch . The Fakirs will soon be running the show again and partying like it is 1499 . They will be offering free flying lessons from tall buildings in Kabul and public entertainment events in the stadiums once again . Attendance will be compulsory. As the French say “the more things change the more they stay the same “ . |
This is all about money and drugs. The Taliban are just the indoctrinated foot soldiers living a lie brought about by the powerful crime cartels in Iran and mainly Pakistan. It includes those powerful individuals who gave Osama protection. This is no different from Pablo Escobar and Columbia, FARC, the Columbian State and the US fight against Cocaine. We may have saved the lives of soldiers by withdrawing, but we will lose more lives on the streets of our towns and cities, through Heroin based crime. The vacuum of authority will also allow extremist views to grow again and we will probably be back bombing in 20 years time.
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Originally Posted by fitliker
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Some others are reporting Kabul will fall in weeks ? But all reports are in agreement . It is when , not if Kabul falls again .
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Why didn't we just napalm all their poppy farms?
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
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Why didn't we just napalm all their poppy farms?
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To not upset our -until very recently- local partners in the fight against the Taliban.
Having trained and equipped incompetent local forces seems to be massively backfiring now. |
Originally Posted by Less Hair
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To not upset our -until very recently- local partners in the fight against the Taliban.
Having trained and equipped incompetent local forces seems to be massively backfiring now. |
Maybe instead of what we did we should have armed and weapon trained all afghan women?
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Less Hair, it’s that kind of blue sky thinking that is woefully lacking in our senior military leadership and politicians 😂
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
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Maybe instead of what we did we should have armed and weapon trained all afghan women?
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I have a good friend who went there several times with the military. Another one tried to develop their civil society.
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Do we, the British, have any vital strategic interests in Afghanistan?
If not, call the last 20 years "water under the bridge", with tragic loss of life, many woundings, PTSD, and the colossal waste of money coming to an end. Let China and Russia and India and Pakistan do what they will, and keep our [very limited] noses out of it. Probably simplistic, perhaps I need educating. Or perhaps the politicians need educating. |
Originally Posted by Less Hair
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I have a good friend who went there several times with the military. Another one tried to develop their civil society.
Doesn't really advance our understanding of the current situation though, does it? |
What is happening now is exactly what had been predicted unfortunately. Nothing will remain. Look what was left after the soviets left?
Back to daily terror and blowing up Buddhas with drug clans living their happy life. |
Probably true, But they are going to run out of Buddhas in time. Then what? Will drug running and perfecting a Sharia state satisfy them? As I said in the other thread on the subject, I reckon eventually they will start to become an international problem, perhaps in the ISIS mould. They may even attract what is left of ISIS to them.
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US official has said additional American troops are being sent to Afghanistan to help remove personnel from the US embassy in Kabul.
Preparing for an opposed evacuation by reinforcing the airport and a road corridor? |
They seem to want to move most of the embassy to the airport.
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Evacuation?
One of the most difficult, often practised, sometimes cocked-up, military evolutions was withdrawal on the NW Frontier. John Masters and others describe the meticulous planning and execution and gallantry needed to get it right. |
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