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NutLoose 17th May 2021 14:27

Chinook ops..
 
Ahh don't you love it, Navy Seals at play.. :E

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ginia-exercise


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1da4009e2b.jpg

Mogwi 17th May 2021 15:27

What could possibly go wrong?

ShyTorque 17th May 2021 15:49

They’ll never get it started like that.

zetec2 17th May 2021 16:24

In our day we had to make do with rubber inflateables !.

exTabber 17th May 2021 17:06

Even as I read this thread, I know that one of them is writing a book about it.

ORAC 17th May 2021 17:30

Zetec2,

Yeah - but they could get back on board again….


esscee 18th May 2021 09:19

Waiting for the Health & Safety "jobsworths" to pop up.

ancientaviator62 18th May 2021 13:01

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3aa3bfb134.jpg
This is how we did it in the RAF C130 in the early days with the SBS following close behind.

etudiant 18th May 2021 22:42


Originally Posted by esscee (Post 11046732)
Waiting for the Health & Safety "jobsworths" to pop up.

Just after the corrosion inspection teams declare the airframes kaput.
Flooding the insides of a CH-47 with salt water surely accelerates their EOL.

NutLoose 18th May 2021 22:53

Ramp operations can be carried out on the water using an optional power-down ramp and water dam configuration. The floor if I remember was sealed and also had one way drains installed, it’s a long time since I was on them. The RAF suffered corrosion from salt on one or so when they were originally delivered and that was traced to the crews delivering them to the docks and taking a car with them to drive back when they dropped it off, it was winter and snow / ice with road salt melted and dropped off the cars and then had several weeks to fester on the boat trip to the U.K.

Rigga 21st May 2021 12:46


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11047136)
Ramp operations can be carried out on the water using an optional power-down ramp and water dam configuration. The floor if I remember was sealed and also had one way drains installed, it’s a long time since I was on them. The RAF suffered corrosion from salt on one or so when they were originally delivered and that was traced to the crews delivering them to the docks and taking a car with them to drive back when they dropped it off, it was winter and snow / ice with road salt melted and dropped off the cars and then had several weeks to fester on the boat trip to the U.K.

While the floors are sealed they aren't water tight. We had to take up all the floorboards of the "Air India" aircraft to clean the biohazard contamination. The same happened after GW1 when removed sand from one aircraft filled a 45 gallon drum.

NutLoose 21st May 2021 13:05

There was also a Ch-47 that got heavier and heavier, it turned out the drains were blocked and when they took up to floor it was full of water.

Shackman 21st May 2021 19:13

To add to Rigga's statement - the Air India 'incident'. The aircraft was ZA713, we deployed on the Sunday to Cork, but were not tasked until early the following morning. We didn't actually pick up any bio-hazards; all we found was a cabbage patch doll floating in the water but it was incredibly life like so the winchman went out on the wire to recover it (much to the delight of the BBC and ITV crews also on board). Unfortunately he bought a lot of seawater back in as well, and the aircraft was not decontammed when we got back to Cork. It then went u/s and it was a few days before returning to Odiham. The floorboards were then lifted to clean the salt out, but large quantities of water were left in the underfloor spaces. An Eng O had the great idea of drilling small holes in the frame to let the water out, the floorboards were replaced and the a/c declared 'S' and released back to the line - but no one was told about the 'modification' to the skin.

Some time later, a water landing trial was to be carried out for SF. Guess which aircraft was chosen? Guess what happened? It didn't sink, but was a lot heavier lifting off the lake than expected.

meleagertoo 22nd May 2021 11:34


Originally Posted by etudiant (Post 11047133)
Just after the corrosion inspection teams declare the airframes kaput.
Flooding the insides of a CH-47 with salt water surely accelerates their EOL.

It surely would. But in the clip above the water is clearly peat-brown, so fresh Scottish/Welsh/pennine lake water at a guess.

meleagertoo 22nd May 2021 11:36


Originally Posted by etudiant (Post 11047133)
Just after the corrosion inspection teams declare the airframes kaput.
Flooding the insides of a CH-47 with salt water surely accelerates their EOL.

It surely would. But in the clip above the water is clearly brown, so fresh Scottish/Welsh/pennine lake water at a guess. (20 seconds in)

NutLoose 22nd May 2021 13:45

One of the first ones we got we required accurate temps at altitude, so contacted the Metman, his figures didn’t match what we believed and a discussion with the met revealed the “accurate” temps were the result of a balloon release in Liverpool, which was no use at Odiham. So they decided on a pole with a shielded thermometer mounted on it........ then they dropped it and Mercury went everywhere including under the floor. :ugh:

lsh 22nd May 2021 18:39

Filling the underfloor with fuel did not go down well, as I remember.

lsh
:E


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