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ORAC 20th Feb 2022 07:00


Buster Hyman 20th Feb 2022 08:02

Cross promotional perhaps?

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dead_pan 20th Feb 2022 08:12

Well that's the final straw - ROC lost the hockey final to Finland, FINLAND of all countries! Vlad will be fuming. I reckon it'll be game on with Ukraine later today...

minigundiplomat 20th Feb 2022 09:44

Sorry, been busy over the weekend and haven’t caught CNN. What day and time is the invasion this week?

Less Hair 20th Feb 2022 10:01

Right after the games of peace end. All too serious unfortunately.

ORAC 20th Feb 2022 11:54

Goodbye Belarus….

Russia to Keep 30,000 Troops in Belarus

Russia’s large-scale military deployment in Belarus, which the United States has long warned could be used as a pretext to build an invasion force aimed at Ukraine, will be extended beyond Sunday when joint exercises had been scheduled to conclude, Belarus’s defense minister announced.

After repeated assurances from Russia and Belarus that the drills would end this weekend as planned, the Belarusian defense minister said on Sunday that the two countries’ militaries would continue to “test” their capabilities because of what they claimed were heightened tensions in eastern Ukraine….

The Belarus defense minister said on Sunday that because of “the growing military activity on the external borders of the Union State and the exacerbation of the situation in the Donbas, the presidents of Belarus and Russia have made the decision to continue the inspection of reaction forces.”

The union state, until recently a largely aspirational entity, refers to a merged state comprising Russia and Belarus that was initiated in 1997 but has recently begun to take on a concrete form as Russia has subordinated the Belarusian military and other state structures to its effective command.

The defense minister did not elaborate on what tests would be carried out, or how long they would last. But his remarks indicated Russian troops would not be leaving Belarus, at least not immediately.….

The announcement on Sunday appeared to mark a reversal from earlier statements. Belarus’ foreign minister, Vladimir Makei, assured journalists last Wednesday that “not a single Russian serviceman and not a single piece of Russian military hardware will remain after these maneuvers.” Also last week, the Kremlin’s spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, said that Russia keeping troops in Belarus after the exercises “is not being considered.”…..

unmanned_droid 20th Feb 2022 11:58


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11186822)

Apparently this is in Grodno Belarus according to the comments, so some confusion (deliberate or otherwise) exists. Grodno is up against the border with Ukraine though (approx 8-10km). No comments as to location on your post beneath this one however.

ORAC 20th Feb 2022 16:18


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ORAC 20th Feb 2022 19:17

Real Chechen war type false flag attack?


ORAC 20th Feb 2022 20:49

Fascinating to have so much almost real time information in the modern era….



ORAC 20th Feb 2022 20:52


Vitek 21st Feb 2022 05:31

Don't politicians in the west get tired of ****ting their pants by setting dates for Russian invasions and then being wrong when the said date comes and goes?

In my opinion the only way Russia will invade Ukraine is if the Ukrainian regime decides to try a quickie and get control of Donetsk and Lughansk back (i.e. Saakashvilli back in 2008) in which case they will have their asses handed to them.
Looks like they understand that and don't have much desire to have that happen, however most of the west is throwing fuel onto the fire and feeding the hysteria.

Beamr 21st Feb 2022 05:36


Originally Posted by Vitek (Post 11187333)
Don't politicians in the west get tired of ****ting their pants by setting dates for Russian invasions and then being wrong when the said date comes and goes?

In my opinion the only way Russia will invade Ukraine is if the Ukrainian regime decides to try a quickie and get control of Donetsk and Lughansk back (i.e. Saakashvilli back in 2008) in which case they will have their asses handed to them.
Looks like they understand that and don't have much desire to have that happen, however most of the west is throwing fuel onto the fire and feeding the hysteria.

First and foremost: Donetsk and Luhansk are Ukraininan soil, and Ukraine is a soveregin country. What is Russias justification to be there in the first place?
Or Crimea, there is no right fo rRussia to invade sovereign countries and annex parts form those.

As second, without the western countries exposing Russias plans to enslave ukrainians, Putin would've already attacked Ukraine.

Beamr 21st Feb 2022 05:55


Originally Posted by NAROBS (Post 11187337)
Plenty of US Global Hawks showing on Flight Radar over the last week, but no Russian equivalent on the other side of the border. Wouldn't intelligence gathered by such devices be just as essential to the Russians if a Russian invasion was imminent . . . Unless they don't carry ADS-B.

I doubt that all the RIvet Joints, Global Hawks et al have flown with ADS-B on. They are doing so with some flights to make a point that they are there. And at the same time I doubt that any of the Russian military has had the transponders on at all. If they would've then the flightradar would've swarmed with military AC.

henra 21st Feb 2022 07:52


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11187334)
As second, without the western countries exposing Russias plans to enslave ukrainians, Putin would've already attacked Ukraine.

???
How does this exactly prevent an invasion?


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