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NutLoose 7th Oct 2022 11:15


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11309526)
I don't think it was the best of plans to go public with this line - it only reinforces Putin's message and will only encourage him to further up the ante.

Much better to have kept to the lower key line they've been using up till now, along the lines of "we don't think he will but are fully prepared if he does".


Actually I do, I think it is a subtle way of telling Putin if you used a Nuke the retalitory attack will be a Nuke... thus letting him know without any doubt what the response will be without actually saying it. I.E back off from going there or you will receive what you unleash.

Wokkafans 7th Oct 2022 11:22

That's going to hurt. Still, a better outcome than that of the Russian caught hiding in an outdoor loo.




NutLoose 7th Oct 2022 11:24

What the mobilised get in one region, pack of sanitary pads, a car first aid kit and a bar of chocolate.



NutLoose 7th Oct 2022 11:34

I would hate to live downstairs from a Russian... working toilet, what's that? let's punch a hole through the floor and sh*t there.



Wokkafans 7th Oct 2022 11:41


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11309613)
I would hate to live downstairs from a Russian... working toilet, what's that? let's punch a hole through the floor and sh*t there.

GRAPHIC - one way to clear a loo. Hiding in a place with no visibility was never going to work out well. What a waste of a life.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

mahogany bob 7th Oct 2022 11:51

ORAC @ LANGLEY BASTION

re Times news on Ukraine

touche - BUT I have rechecked my Times on Line and this article ISN’T in it ???

i am still surprised that Ukraine is not front page - but I see the argument that it should be kept low profile ?.

Hopefully a lot is going on behind the scene ??

PS I have just been to specsavers!



NutLoose 7th Oct 2022 11:55

State TV admiting failures in activating reserves earlier and expecting more to be called up.


NutLoose 7th Oct 2022 12:21

Here is a cunning idea, we keep seeing liberated villages with Ukrainians hanging up flags at the town signs, what they need to do is have a bunch of fake signs manufactured for towns behind the Russian front lines and then put them up on social media showing the" liberation" of the fake signs.... Russia will not know what is going on or who is where and what is behind them causing panic and withdrawls.. ;)

Wokka, I posted another a while back where it showed two Russian soldiers indulging in some "oral" activities, the drone dropped a grenade on them, I just hope he didn't bite down. Mods removed the linky.

Ninthace 7th Oct 2022 12:55


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11309619)
State TV admiting failures in activating reserves earlier and expecting more to be called up.



https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/s...88185548111882

They opine that a force ratio of 1:1 is enough to start a counter offensive with green troops. That should be fun.

ORAC 7th Oct 2022 13:12


Here is a cunning idea, we keep seeing liberated villages with Ukrainians hanging up flags at the town signs, what they need to do is have a bunch of fake signs manufactured for towns behind the Russian front lines and then put them up on social media showing the" liberation" of the fake signs.... Russia will not know what is going on or who is where and what is behind them causing panic and withdrawls..
Reportedly UKR SF are already doing it for real behind enemy lines so that geolocation and metadata shows it to be the real location…..


ORAC 7th Oct 2022 13:21

Girkin and his bunch of sad f***s: "If the Svatove-Kreminna are taken, we are screwed"; says Russians have no infantry in the area, and Ukrainians might soon throw them back to 24 February lines.

The Helpful Stacker 7th Oct 2022 13:26


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11309634)
Here is a cunning idea, we keep seeing liberated villages with Ukrainians hanging up flags at the town signs, what they need to do is have a bunch of fake signs manufactured for towns behind the Russian front lines and then put them up on social media showing the" liberation" of the fake signs.... Russia will not know what is going on or who is where and what is behind them causing panic and withdrawls.. ;)

There were already reports a few weeks back of Ukrainian patrols moving deep into the flanks/rear of Russian troops and raising Ukrainian flags in order to panic the Russians into thinking they'd been surrounded.

(Sorry ORAC, just noticed your post)

ORAC 7th Oct 2022 13:36

Russia tried to order 200,000 bulletproof vests and 500,000 sets of winter clothes through third countries, but was refused by Turkey, - Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov

albatross 7th Oct 2022 13:52

Perhaps the Ukrainians can repair and repurpose one of the Iranian drones to deliver a “Happy Belated Birthday” gag gift at Putrid’s mansion on the Black Sea.

Sue Vêtements 7th Oct 2022 14:02


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11309634)
what they need to do is have a bunch of fake signs manufactured for towns behind the Russian front lines and then put them up on social media showing the" liberation" of the fake signs.... Russia will not know what is going on or who is where

or better still - Chinese flags

Usertim 7th Oct 2022 15:26


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11309667)
Perhaps the Ukrainians can repair and repurpose one of the Iranian drones to deliver a “Happy Belated Birthday” gag gift at Putrid’s mansion on the Black Sea.

They have a much better sense of what is an important target for a drone.

Not really any other confirmations yet but this article claims
"A Ukrainian drone destroyed two TU 22M3s at the Shaikovka airfield in the Kaluga region of the Russian Federation" - half way to Moscow

https://news.obozrevatel.com/russia/...odrobnosti.htm

ORAC 7th Oct 2022 15:27

https://kyivindependent.com/uncatego...-inner-circles

Putin no longer tells ministers about his plans, faces criticism in inner circles

Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has stopped to consult with ministers and doesn't inform them of his plans, Russian news outlet Meduza reports, citing unnamed sources close to Kremlin and the government.

Putin is making all critical decisions himself after a brief discussion with the leadership of special services personnel and law enforcement agencies, Meduza reports.

"(Putin) scares everyone sh**less. But it's fear without respect. There has been no respect (for him) for a couple of years now," an unnamed source close to the Russian government told Meduza.

According to U.S. intelligence, Putin has been confronted directly by a member of his inner circle regarding Russia's handling of the war against Ukraine, The Washington Post reported on Oct. 7.

"This criticism marks the clearest indication yet of turmoil within Russia's leadership over the stewardship of a war that has gone disastrously wrong for Moscow," wrote the U.S. media.


ORAC 7th Oct 2022 15:55

After 3 days of relative silence fightings in Kherson Oblast have erupted. Ukrainian forces continue to push Southwest.

ORAC 7th Oct 2022 16:05

A Russian soldier tells his wife about the difficult situation with the first of the mobilised troops who arrived. 60 to 65 dead on the first day

“They are.. what they’re called, the Mobilised. They just arrived and disappeared on the second day”….

henra 7th Oct 2022 16:53


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11309613)
I would hate to live downstairs from a Russian... working toilet, what's that? let's punch a hole through the floor and sh*t there.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...C-3ajQ6OQrAAAA

I think it just confirms the mismatch between the carrying of the burden between the regions. The majority of the Russian soldiers sent to war are recruited from regions where a water toilet is not in scope of a regular household at least of the lower classes. There are no Moscovites and St Petes to be found for sure. The term 'Russian' may be misleading when it comes to the Ethnicity of those who are fighting there.


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