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EXFIN 21st Jan 2021 17:16

Classic
Many thanks, I remember 5/11 at Valley in '87 as i was going through Flying Training on 1 Sqn/4 FTS. I'm not aware of the Jindi photos, possibly Ian Black? Many thanks for your contribution. Best wishes, Taff

EXFIN 21st Jan 2021 17:19

Dominator2

Very impressive, a magnet to Valley! Just been going through the MPC Photos from yesteryear which has plugged a few gaps. And a Dominie tour, good for the CPL/ATPL !!! Many thanks for your time and help. Best wishes, Taff

nipva 22nd Jan 2021 09:59

Several visits over the years but only one missile:
22Mar71 QRA Red Top firing Lightning F6 XR765.
Missile broke up structurally immediately post launch due to failure of the ALTAS unit. The firing was at relatively low level but the missile thought it was at high level so applied high gearing control inputs.
Aircraft suffered superficial damage from flying through the dispersed debris field. Quite exciting though.

ATSA1 22nd Jan 2021 10:13

I was on BCU at Valley 85-87, I took a few pics of the STCAAME visitors...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f45c00b7b3.jpg
..even the Buccs carried Sidewinders!

Box Brownie 22nd Jan 2021 10:54

Gnat XR538 - photo taken at Kemble
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3ee3bd7eed.jpg

EXFIN 22nd Jan 2021 16:21


Originally Posted by nipva (Post 10973495)
Several visits over the years but only one missile:
22Mar71 QRA Red Top firing Lightning F6 XR765.
Missile broke up structurally immediately post launch due to failure of the ALTAS unit. The firing was at relatively low level but the missile thought it was at high level so applied high gearing control inputs.
Aircraft suffered superficial damage from flying through the dispersed debris field. Quite exciting though.

Would it be possible to send a list of your visits pleas, serial/unit/type/date. Best wishes, Taff

SLXOwft 22nd Jan 2021 16:59

Taff, some photos from outside the wire.

Not great quality but here are 3 USAF visitors
68-0077 F-111E UH painted as 680 77th AMU stbd and 680 77TFS port with the name June Nite departing on 24JUN1986 - unusual to see an Aardvark land.
68-0099 F-111D CC 522TFS/27TFW - I think this was when it came over with the Coronet Comanche 1986 deployment from Canyon AFB to Boscombe Down 27 August - 24 September
61-0285 EC-135H 10ACCS


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c4c6903f9.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....853fe1695f.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c3c375e0b0.jpg


Immediately after the UH F111 on the reel were distant shots of 208 Sqn Bucc XX900/MS and 226 OCU Jag XX119/01 so same day/week

Unfortunately I have no dates but other visitors the same day/week as the F-111D and EC-135 I have photos of are:
XV300 Hercules C,1P, XW438/2 JP T.5A RAFC, 69-0369 AR RF-4C 1TRS/10TRW (posted on Phantom Friday thread) and F-4Ms XV430/A, XV472/E, XV485/M & XV488/P 19 Sqn which were at STCAAME.




EXFIN 22nd Jan 2021 17:35

Have the 'CC' F-111D on 29.8.86, the 1st is a new one for us which is great, the EC-135 is also new, it's sister ship '286 came in Sep & Oct.86. Many thanks for your time and there's nothing wrong with those photos, we're spoilt in the digital age! Please feel free to forward the other photos you have to [email protected] Best wishes, Taff

SLXOwft 22nd Jan 2021 19:08

Looking at a more distant shot of the port side of "June Night" she appears to be carrying a AIM-9L (or subsequent variant) - be interesting to know if it was there to perform a trial/practice firing?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....95a865ec28.jpg

Taff - I have sent a PM

Krystal n chips 23rd Jan 2021 05:27

The first F1-11 to plonk itself into Valley in 1971. one Friday afternoon, when, strangely, it went "tech "..these things happen as we know. At this point, the full weight of top level security was deployed as armed guards. This elite force came from within Eng Wing, as ever, and notably comprised of relatively new arrivals....

In a rare moment of practicality, the famous all purpose pick axe handle was replaced with an SLR and....live ammunition, plus the infamous yellow card. There was a slight problem here....the magazine in the SLR was empty....the one with the live ammunition in was sealed in plastic wrap that would have taken about an hour to get into. We were given a very grave briefing as to intruders , etc which we thought was, perhaps, a little surprising as it was located on the well known pan that was adjacent to the sand dunes, where the "fence " at that time was sort of hanging onto a few posts and tourists happily had picnics watching the flying.

An exciting night of defending our allies aircraft then followed, based in an ice box, and with nothing useful, like refreshments for example, being provided hence we had to make " alternative arrangements " involving the chip shop in Bodedern and liquid refreshment c/o Boddingtons.

Next day, whilst seemingly quick enough to assemble this fearless force, nobody had thought about changing over after "some considerable time ". ....which turned out to be around lunch time , Sat.

Enter the cousins tech Sgt sent to rectify the "defect ".......having offered his views as to the crew, the USAF, the state of the UK roads and just about anything else that came to mind, he fixed the defect in a remarkably short time shall we say. Then came the interesting moment. We noticed the name going into the log was not the one displayed on his uniform and, being curious, asked why. He kindly informed us the "asshole had done it to me, so I'm doing it to him "....we just sort of nodded here and quietly wandered off.


nipva 23rd Jan 2021 10:29

EXFIN,
PM sent this morning

clingon3 23rd Jan 2021 13:21

Dusted the logbooks off so here we go...
23 Aug 77 JP3A XN634 Linton- Valley. My BFT land away.

07 Jul 83 JP5A XN405 Linton-Valley RTB
11 Jul 84 JP5A XW313 Ditto
08 May 85 JP5A XW432 Ditto
16 May 86 JP5A XW429 Shawbury-Valley-Linton
22 May 85 JP5A XW299 Brize-Valley-Linton
25 Sep 86 JP5A XW320 Linton-Valley-Linton
Happy days as a JP QFI


02 Oct 89 F3 ZE205 Coningsby-Valley
30 Jul 90 F3 ZE731 Leeming-Valley MPC 25 Sqn
30 Jul 90 F3 ZE791 MPC
31 Jul 90 ZE290 MPC
02 Aug 90 ZE290 MPC


14 Jan 91 F3 ZE791 Leeming-Valley RTB
15 Jan 91 ZE787 Ditto
16 Jan 91 ZE787 Leeming-Valley
17 Jan 91 ZE794 MPC-RTB
This group were in support of Op Granby

19 Apr 93 F3 ZE168 Leeming-Valley MPC 23 Sqn
20 Apr 93 ZE966 MPC
21 Apr 93 ZE966 MPC
21 Apr 93 ZE966 MPC
22 Apr 93 ZE168 MPC
23 Apr 93 ZE 168 MPC
23 Apr 93 ZE168 MPC
These sorties were flown before we deployed on Op Deny Flight, so some rather unusual profiles. 2 weeks later we were behaving like mud movers and getting to do some strafe at Wainfleet!

10 Jan 94 F3 ZE888 Leeming-Valley
21 Oct 94 F3 ZE159 Leeming-Valley

And finally one for the thread starter-(ok, so it’s not Valley related but...)

26 Feb 08 B757-200 G-FCLJ MAN-ALC-MAN
Part of my ‘Bus-Boing conversion-Cheers Taff!


EXFIN 23rd Jan 2021 13:37

clingon3

Mr P, many thanks, much appreciated. Hope all's well, I went to QR in 2012, and as much as I enjoyed my time with TCX I thought the writing was on the wall, I was amazed it went on as long as it did. I was lucky in that the Missus was quite happy to go there & the kids were grown up. That's no consolation to those affected by it's sad demise though. Hope all's well and again, many thanks for your generous time. Best wishes, Taff

EXFIN 23rd Jan 2021 13:44

Just a quick one to say thank you to all who have contributed, a wide spectrum which is encouraging. To those who haven't, GET those LOGBOOKS out be they personal or a relative, inputs such as 'MPC' & 'VYL' should jog the old grey matter! Better to have a history of your flying movements accessible for future generations rather than in an old dusty book hidden away somewhere! Lockdown permitting we are hoping to go online sometime this Year, hopefully mid-year. Best wishes, Taff

EXFIN 23rd Jan 2021 13:49


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10974120)
The first F1-11 to plonk itself into Valley in 1971. one Friday afternoon, when, strangely, it went "tech "..these things happen as we know. At this point, the full weight of top level security was deployed as armed guards. This elite force came from within Eng Wing, as ever, and notably comprised of relatively new arrivals....

In a rare moment of practicality, the famous all purpose pick axe handle was replaced with an SLR and....live ammunition, plus the infamous yellow card. There was a slight problem here....the magazine in the SLR was empty....the one with the live ammunition in was sealed in plastic wrap that would have taken about an hour to get into. We were given a very grave briefing as to intruders , etc which we thought was, perhaps, a little surprising as it was located on the well known pan that was adjacent to the sand dunes, where the "fence " at that time was sort of hanging onto a few posts and tourists happily had picnics watching the flying.

An exciting night of defending our allies aircraft then followed, based in an ice box, and with nothing useful, like refreshments for example, being provided hence we had to make " alternative arrangements " involving the chip shop in Bodedern and liquid refreshment c/o Boddingtons.

Next day, whilst seemingly quick enough to assemble this fearless force, nobody had thought about changing over after "some considerable time ". ....which turned out to be around lunch time , Sat.

Enter the cousins tech Sgt sent to rectify the "defect ".......having offered his views as to the crew, the USAF, the state of the UK roads and just about anything else that came to mind, he fixed the defect in a remarkably short time shall we say. Then came the interesting moment. We noticed the name going into the log was not the one displayed on his uniform and, being curious, asked why. He kindly informed us the "asshole had done it to me, so I'm doing it to him "....we just sort of nodded here and quietly wandered off.

Yes, the old F-111's were two a penny in the 70/80's mainly PD's but you could guarantee an emergency arrival at least every 10 days! You mention guarding the first one, I remember as an Assistant in ATC at Valley during TACEVAL, guard duty & around the Airfield a few of us would speak Welsh on the STORNO radio, suffice to say it didn't go down to well with the DI Staff! Happy days, Taff

Box Brownie 23rd Jan 2021 18:07

Meteor U16 WA991
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ec8204af9c.jpg
photographed in the static park at an air display in the mid 70s

A20DEK 23rd Jan 2021 19:42

Hello Taff

Hope you find the attached interesting.
All taken by me from Boscombe Hawk XX154 flown up to Valley for my sortie on 21 August 1998. My pilot was the Boscombe Chief Test Pilot Mr Sepp Pauli (spl) who in a former life had been a German Air Force F-104 driver.
Sepp was a very understanding and accommodating person who understood a photographers needs and requirments. So much so that after the Tornado pilot had run through the range a number of times before firing the Sidewinder, we eventually had to divert into Llanbedr for fuel before returning to Valley.
We arrived at the Tornado drivers debrief at STACAAME (or was it AGWU at the time) on time, and to hear him shouting many expletives over the radio as the Sidewinder came of the rail. (All of which are unprintable here!!!!)

Cheers

Taff. Just received the message stating I am not allowed to mail URLs until I have posted at least 10 messages. Is there a way of posting the photos here I am not aware of?





Box Brownie 25th Jan 2021 11:29

Andover on approach - if I recall, early 70s
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1caf68d50.jpg

sycamore 25th Jan 2021 14:13

From a miss-spent youth to mid-life crises...
20/2/1964.J-P 4,XP628, Syerston-VLY ,solo navex,2 FTS,2SDN ,D Flt.
20/2/1964,J-4 XP628 VLY-Syerston.RTB.
27/7/1964-3/9/1964, CFS(H) 2 SDN,SAR DET.;45 SORTIES,Convex/mountains boats,etc Whirlwind 10
XP405,XP302/343/342/356.
17/9/69 ,Whirlwind 9,XM666, W Freugh-Vly-Boscombe-Down. Refuel after SS11 Missile trials.
18/10/1972 Hunter T7 XL612, Bedford-Vly,RAE ,Aero Flight.
18/10/1972 Hunter T7XL612 Vly- Bedford.
29/2/1980,, Sea-King 3 XZ589,Culdrose-Vly;RAFSKTU.
14/10/1980 WW 10 XP361 .Vly-Finningley, HQSAR Wing
13/3/1981,Wessex2 XT601 Finn.-Vly
13/3/1981.WX2 XR518 VLY-Finn
6/5/81, S-K 3 XZ588 Fnn-Vly-Finn.
22/5/81 WX2 XR518 Finn-Vly-Brawdy
14/7/81JP 5a `T`,Finn-Vly
14/7/81WX2,XV724 Vly-Finn.
12/01/1982.WX2 XV729 Benson -Vly
13/01/1982 .WX2,XV729 Vly-Finn
16/08/82 WX2.XR524 Finn-Vl
16/2/1982 WX2.XT601 Vly- Leconfield
9/11/82 WX2,XT674 Finn-Vly
9/11/82 WX2. XR518 Vly-Finn.
7/12/82. WX2,XT602 Finn-Vly
7/12/82 WX2XT604 Vly-Finn
6/11/84 HS125-7, ZD621 Shawbury-Vly-Sha`bry 32 Sqdn.
14/11/84,HS125-7 ZD621 Honington -Vly-Honington
21/01/86,HS125-4 XW788 Northolt -Vly
21/01/86,HS125-4 XW788 Vly-Finn.
18/02/86, HS125-7, ZD704,NHLT-Vly-NHLT
23/97/86 HS125-7 ZE395 Wyton-Vly -Wyton
10/1094 C-130k XV181 Lyneham-Vly 24 SQDN
10/10/94 C-130K XV181 Vly -Vidsel(Sweden) ESPE
14/10/94 C-130k XV186 Akrotiri-Vly
14/10/94 C-130k XV186 Vly-Ly`ham..

The 6 weeks I spent at Valley in 1964 was living in the Sgts Mess `Annex`,somewhere between the northern thresholds.A most abysmal place,no heating,no bath,ablutions outside for the usual sh,sh,sh,cold water,;breakfast was only meal that coincided with `the working` day,and `fly-prog.,and flying kit not allowed in the Mess...The CMC must have spent time as a POW with the SS....Apart from that,the weather was great,and the flying was total fun ,but hard work,2-3 sorties a day...

EXFIN 26th Jan 2021 15:35

Box Brownie, many thanks will try and track it down! Taff


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