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superplum 21st Dec 2020 15:42

Sentinel and Sentry ac for sale
 
Not on BOGOF yet!

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...le-of-aircraft

DCThumb 22nd Dec 2020 06:01

It’s a shame Sentinel is to be broken up for scrap (although there may be ongoing compliance/corrosion issues I’m unaware of). Remove the classified bits and you have an aircraft with a pod and strongpoint underneath, and a separate power system that would be highly suitable for trials of a variety of payloads.
Sad fact is that, given the cost of GLEX parts, they are probably more valuable in $ as spares than as a flying airframe.

Lordflasheart 22nd Dec 2020 08:24

Three out of ten for english
 
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Judging by the numerous spelling and other basic errors, I would assume this was a scam.

LFH
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Herod 22nd Dec 2020 09:31

No, I think it's just the standard of education today.

Sandy Parts 22nd Dec 2020 10:08

Sell ‘on mass’? So pay by weight? :ugh:

etudiant 22nd Dec 2020 10:55


Originally Posted by Sandy Parts (Post 10952471)
Sell ‘on mass’? So pay by weight? :ugh:

Probably the Whitehall phonetic version of 'en masse', as they want a single buyer for the lot.

Herod 22nd Dec 2020 13:37

You can't use "en masse" after 31st. It's a European phrase, and the govt has removed those.

ACW342 22nd Dec 2020 14:06

And maybe someone could advise them eejits in MoD and DESA the the plural of aircraft is.................aircraft!! Mind you it could possibly be part of the Americanisation of the English language. Recently our highways department "Signalised" a local road junction instead of installing traffic lights and we now have to go storing as all the things we wish to buy now have been moved out of shops and into stores. Remember shops? it's where you used to go when out shopping.


Sandy Parts 22nd Dec 2020 16:26


Originally Posted by ACW342 (Post 10952639)
And maybe someone could advise them eejits in MoD and DESA the the plural of aircraft is.................aircraft!! Mind you it could possibly be part of the Americanisation of the English language. Recently our highways department "Signalised" a local road junction instead of installing traffic lights and we now have to go storing as all the things we wish to buy now have been moved out of shops and into stores. Remember shops? it's where you used to go when out shopping.

true - we service types all know that ‘stores’ is where you go to be told “we’ve only got one left and we’re keeping it in case someone needs it” aka ‘the window of no’

Less Hair 22nd Dec 2020 16:29

Cut in some windows and you have the perfect 707s for passenger use with live TV installed already.

Fonsini 23rd Dec 2020 08:44

The standard of grammar in that document tells you everything you need to know about the Civil Service.

Melchett01 23rd Dec 2020 09:02

Not my part of the ship so a genuine question, but whilst the E3s are probably being put out of their misery if what I hear is correct, it seems a waste of airframes to break the Sentinels up.
Can’t they be repurposed? Some other ISR platform, C2 / communication, VIP transport (rather than taking an Atlas or a C-17 off line just to move a minister round because he wants his own ac) Or would it just be beyond economic viability?

Less Hair 23rd Dec 2020 09:08

How many hours on the frame will they typically have when phased out? Can't be many cycles apart from the fact that they were always "heavy" when landing.

dagenham 23rd Dec 2020 12:40


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 10953076)
How many hours on the frame will they typically have when phased out? Can't be many cycles apart from the fact that they were always "heavy" when landing.

i am thinking whip round. Keep them in store , man them with some of you old and bold and lease back to hmg at an enhanced rate when in need?

The B Word 23rd Dec 2020 15:46

I hope they keep one of each for either Cosford or Duxford?

SLXOwft 23rd Dec 2020 17:49


Originally Posted by Melchett01 (Post 10953070)
Not my part of the ship so a genuine question, but whilst the E3s are probably being put out of their misery if what I hear is correct, it seems a waste of airframes to break the Sentinels up.
Can’t they be repurposed? Some other ISR platform, C2 / communication, VIP transport (rather than taking an Atlas or a C-17 off line just to move a minister round because he wants his own ac) Or would it just be beyond economic viability?

Melchett, DCThumb answered this on the New Aeromed Role for BAe 146 CC and Sentinel R1 to be scrapped next year due to ‘obsolescence’ say MoD threads.


Originally Posted by DCThumb (Post 10818229)
The costs to rework Sentinel would be greater than buying a secondhand Global Express and doing the same work, so no!


Originally Posted by DCThumb (Post 10794961)
Not a hope. Much cheaper to buy a second hand Global Express.


Duchess_Driver 23rd Dec 2020 18:33


I hope they keep one of each for either Cosford or Duxford?
IIRC neither have a complete 707 airframe but (as much as I’d like to see it) I can’t see either wanting to waste budgets if they didn’t want to spend more to preserve an example of the worlds first successful commercial airliner.

As for a Global, 2 a penny and nothing noteworthy to look at from the outside.

NutLoose 23rd Dec 2020 20:21


Originally Posted by DCThumb (Post 10952307)
Sad fact is that, given the cost of GLEX parts, they are probably more valuable in $ as spares than as a flying airframe.


Sadly that’s the way of things, I remember before all this crud happening an airline breaking 737’s just over 5 years old and out of warranty as they were worth more as spares than complete aircraft.

Whenurhappy 24th Dec 2020 09:23

deleted as it was in poor taste

Could be the last? 27th Dec 2020 07:28

I am guessing that once the IR is finally released that there will be other fleets being disposed of too......Puma/C-130/Hawk?


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