RAF Chinook 40 Years
On this day 4 decades ago the first Chinook was delivered to the RAF and the rest is history from Falklands to GW1, The Balkans, Adghanistan etc.
Boeing: Celebrating 40 years of Chinook https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6ceef5d0.jpeg (Photos courtesy of Boeing) Thing was though the late Eric ‚Winkle‘ Brown Went over to fly the prototype YCH-47A at Boeing Philadelphia in 62 (?) and MoD looking at procuring it in the late 60s but did not happen. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5f85a76b8.jpeg cheers |
Dick Forsyth talks about being the first RAF Chinook pilot.......
How time flies, I still remember it turning up as one of those on the OCU at the start of it all. Happy days, building the Tea bar out of redundant Chinook packing cases.. and each Chinook arriving with a superb set of thin Snap-On Spanners in a tool kit that were removed never to be seen again, along with the centre seats.. and the true RAF tradition of let’s cobble it together with what we have and redundant Andover long range tanks being installed in the cabs to increase the range. I remember a few incidents we had in those days, an escape hatch window falling out over Southampton on one delivery, and corrosion found in a couple of early cabs, caused it turned out by the delivery crews practice of taking a car with them on the trip to the docks so they could drive home. Snow and salt off the vehicles would melt, drop off, then sit in the aircraft for the weeks it took to deliver slowly starting to corrode. https://www.forces.net/technology/ai...-years-chinook |
The procurement in the 1960s went a long way down the road, far enough for serial numbers to be allocated (XV841-XV855). The order was placed in March 1967, but was cancelled in November, and was for CH-47B variants.
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chopper2004 :-
Thing was though the late Eric ‚Winkle‘ Brown Went over to fly the prototype YCH-47A at Boeing Philadelphia in 62 (?) and MoD looking at procuring it in the late 60s but did not happen. |
I seem to remember the ones delivered to Liverpool were offloaded and prepped next to the local hookers place of trade, so it was happy hookers all round ;)
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Gosh this makes me feel old. I remember standing in the bar at Seletar in 1967 chatting with a couple of Belvedere pilots who were bemoaning the fact that the initial order for Chinooks for the RAF had been cancelled. At this time of course they were already very active in Vietnam. Thank goodness that decision was eventually rescinded.
Some years ago I met a chap who had been serving in the RN during the Falkland War. On the day that the Atlantic Conveyer was sunk, this chap was manning a gun (an Oerlikon I think) on his ship when the warning came that an Exocet missile was inbound. As the missile passed them at short range everybody opened up on it, but unfortunately to no affect and the Atlantic Conveyer was hit and sunk with its precious cargo of Chinooks. I thought, if somebody had managed to hit that Exocet, the whole course of the war might have been altered - almost certainly shortened. One other thing, the word "yomp" would probably never had entered the language. Still there are always "what ifs" in any war. |
And my mates were on the conveyor and went for a swim.
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Along with the C130 I think the CH47 is pretty close to being obsolete proof
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Have we still got the first one "triggers broom".
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 10932619)
Have we still got the first one "triggers broom".
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Re a statement from the link reference in Post No. 2:
“It’s configured electronically to fly like a single rotor helicopter. Once you get to grips with it, it’s got fantastic capability. SAS, where are you?? |
Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 10932608)
Along with the C130 I think the CH47 is pretty close to being obsolete proof
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
(Post 10932619)
Have we still got the first one "triggers broom".
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Originally Posted by JohnDixson
(Post 10933087)
Re a statement from the link reference in Post No. 2:
“It’s configured electronically to fly like a single rotor helicopter. Once you get to grips with it, it’s got fantastic capability. SAS, where are you?? |
ZA672 FF at ODI shortly after delivery to the OCU
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4cc161a7a9.jpg |
ZA 672 FF and ZA 673 FG the first two Chinooks on 240 OCU
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ZA673 FG airborne, they were the first two at Odiham, ZA670 and 671 went initially to Boscombe.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b9219b9529.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Chinny Crewman
(Post 10933132)
Sadly not. ZA672 was the first one delivered to the RAF and it was subsequently destroyed at Hannover in May 1988. I’m unsure if ZA670 and 671 were delivered to Boscombe beforehand but they are still in service.
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Article on "BN" - sole survivor of the 1982 Falklands conflict and its exploits since - including its pilots being awarded 4 x DFCs.
The Amazing Tale Of Bravo November, The British Chinook Helicopter That Refused To Die (thedrive.com) |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10932535)
And my mates were on the conveyor and went for a swim.
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Mrs 4ma was doing her PA to the Station Commander stuff when she took a call from Boscombe Down asking her to kindly inform the Station Commander that one of the new Chinooks had inadvertently dropped an underslung load from the centre hook during lifting trials and would he be so kind as to return the call.
Heard about the very nice tool kits but I don't recall them even getting as far as Supply Sqn. Can't have been us anyway, as our resident tea-leaf had already been sent down for three and a half years a few months earlier. There were no dodgy practices and everything was squeaky clean and legit such was the impact of the earlier goings-on. |
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
(Post 10933885)
Article on "BN" - sole survivor of the 1982 Falklands conflict and its exploits since - including its pilots being awarded 4 x DFCs.
The Amazing Tale Of Bravo November, The British Chinook Helicopter That Refused To Die (thedrive.com) The information board when the aircraft finally makes it into well-deserved museum retirement will be rather large, if there's any justice! |
Originally Posted by 4mastacker
(Post 10934097)
Mrs 4ma was doing her PA to the Station Commander stuff when she took a call from Boscombe Down asking her to kindly inform the Station Commander that one of the new Chinooks had inadvertently dropped an underslung load from the centre hook during lifting trials and would he be so kind as to return the call.
Heard about the very nice tool kits but I don't recall them even getting as far as Supply Sqn. Can't have been us anyway, as our resident tea-leaf had already been sent down for three and a half years a few months earlier. There were no dodgy practices and everything was squeaky clean and legit such was the impact of the earlier goings-on. So many good people gone sigh.... Arthur ( 1/2R ) Mitchell, Chris Taylor.... remembered at this anniversary. |
H-47ER
Re our approval purchase of Boeing H-47ER
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/maj...nd-accessories In todays news Ben Wallace threatened to can it due to rising costs officially, but its been implied that two years ago when he gave the ultimatum to the states, it was personal. He felt that DC blocked his ascension to be NATO Secretary.<br /><br /><a href= "https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12475593/Ben-Wallace-threatened-cancel-Chinook-deal-soaring-2-3bn-costs-White-House-blocked-bid-head-NATO.html"> |
There are many servicemen/women and civilians who owe their lives to the Chinook and the crews who fly and maintain them.
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Originally Posted by chopper2004
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Re our approval purchase of Boeing H-47ER
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/maj...nd-accessories In todays news Ben Wallace threatened to can it due to rising costs officially, but its been implied that two years ago when he gave the ultimatum to the states, it was personal. He felt that DC blocked his ascension to be NATO Secretary.<br /><br /><a href= "https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12475593/Ben-Wallace-threatened-cancel-Chinook-deal-soaring-2-3bn-costs-White-House-blocked-bid-head-NATO.html"> |
Originally Posted by skua
(Post 11496804)
The thinking is that Shapps "dropped" that story to denigrate his predecessor. But politicans wouldn't stoop so low, would they?
Shirley not................................... |
I was based at Odiham in 1979, prior to the RAF taking delivery of its first Chinooks. The US Army had a temporary detachment of them up at the airfield (although I seem to remember them being grounded for a while due to a fleet safety check being required).
I was queuing in the local village butchers shop when a couple of them flew over, rattling the windows. The old lady in front of me said in a very loud voice “I’m so glad those noisy things aren’t based here….” ”Oh dear!” thought I. :oh: |
Originally Posted by ShyTorque
(Post 11497401)
I was based at Odiham in 1979, prior to the RAF taking delivery of its first Chinooks. The US Army had a temporary detachment of them up at the airfield (although I seem to remember them being grounded for a while due to a fleet safety check being required).
I was queuing in the local village butchers shop when a couple of them flew over, rattling the windows. The old lady in front of me said in a very loud voice “I’m so glad those noisy things aren’t based here….” ”Oh dear!” thought I. :oh: IIRC It was a combining box fault.... I say fault, because it was I was led to believe poor maintenance, the shafts that plug into the box were designed to be rotated and when the correct phasing was attained they would spring in and I think a 5/16 bolt held it in place. Some of the US military were rotating them to where they thought it should be, then as the shafts had a flange on them used a bar against a frame to force them in and put the bolt in, this caused an enormous amount of strain on the bolt and one let go, dephasing the rotors which hit then sailed through the fuselage decapitating a crewman. The US decided it was the bolt intially and they decided a bigger bolt was the fix, the rep reamed the bolt holes on two at Odiham with it in a drill! promptly wrecking two boxes before the crews stopped him doing the third. Two sat there for ages until the boxes were replaced. That is what I was told at the time. One of them had the oleo's stuck at full extension on one side and sat on the ground at an odd angle. |
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