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Bill Macgillivray 26th Oct 2020 21:58

Let's have a proper Canberra again! Maybe a PR 19++? Or a Hunter Mk ?? Or a Lightning Mk10 ? Or just a PP, Mosquito, Vampire or maybe(?) an up to date Swift?
Bill

pasta 26th Oct 2020 22:01

Plenty of Blaniks still around, including several for sale if you're keen to scratch that itch; the going rate for airworthy examples seems to be between 15,000-30,000 Euros.

Roll rate still measured in degrees per minute...

Vzlet 26th Oct 2020 23:40

Blanik
 
As perhaps the only Warsaw-Pact-produced aircraft to be operated by several NATO air forces during the Cold War, the Blanik makes a good trivia question.




(Italy, U.S., Spain)

Pugilistic Animus 27th Oct 2020 00:05

I did wrong...I just looked it up... no I've never seen a B36 a B something but definitely not a B 36
I'm adorned in ashes and sack cloth Lol

West Coast 27th Oct 2020 01:06


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 10912142)
Lots of nostalgia here, but if I may nominate a type that might actually be useful today it would be the S-3 Viking.

90+ airframes sent to the desert with plenty of fatigue life, and a much better tanker than the E/F Super Hornet with the buddy store, and a useful MPA. Save the wear and tear on the Super Hornets and sheds loads more gas to give.

Wasn’t there an aborted effort to do this 3-4 years ago?

chevvron 27th Oct 2020 03:43


Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation (Post 10912382)

Anything supersonic with 2 or more engines come to think about it!

Victor then.

treadigraph 27th Oct 2020 06:40


Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus (Post 10912464)
I did wrong...I just looked it up... no I've never seen a B36 a B something but definitely not a B 36
I'm adorned in ashes and sack cloth Lol

If it was in the US, B-17, B-24, B-29?

vascodegama 27th Oct 2020 06:59

SAAB Viggen instead of Jaguar and replace Lightning with same ac.

Touch paper light!

KC10 instead of Victor K2 .

Fareastdriver 27th Oct 2020 09:54


KC10 instead of Victor K2
When I did my flight refuelling course at Marham in 1962 the school already had classroom boards made up with the VC10's fuel distribution system.

brakedwell 27th Oct 2020 10:15

Avro Anson, very under rated, but lovely to fly and very reliable!

ehwatezedoing 27th Oct 2020 10:38


Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus (Post 10912464)
I did wrong...I just looked it up... no I've never seen a B36 a B something but definitely not a B 36
I'm adorned in ashes and sack cloth Lol

I was going to ask as you mentioned your noise cancelling headset and B-36 in the same sentence (Noise cancelling wasn't around in that time period)

The XB-70 was quite the beast, not sure Greta would prove it's come back though.... :p

Null Orifice 27th Oct 2020 11:03

Shackleton MR 2 - with the pre-tailpipe exhaust stubs.

I'd just love to get covered in that wonderfully odorous water-methanol slime just one more time while clearing out the water-meth tanks. Red face
This thrill was almost equalled by the feeling of sheer joy experienced when chiselling off the exhaust stub nuts on a wet and windy Gib dispersal, a regular event for an engines bod carrying out an after flight servicing when the old grey lady returned without her full complement of stubs.
But it was worth it just to hear the magnificent growl of the four Griffons as she flew past at low level.

Krystal n chips 27th Oct 2020 11:21


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 10912406)
Plenty of Blaniks still around, including several for sale if you're keen to scratch that itch; the going rate for airworthy examples seems to be between 15,000-30,000 Euros.

Roll rate still measured in degrees per minute...

Cruel. very cruel ! .....but true...;).:D...however, it was great for loops, and stuff, as you just pointed down, , hoiked back and up and over she went

PoacherNowGamekeeper 27th Oct 2020 11:22

Civil - VC-10 (or DC-10 tough choice for me)

Mil - Vulcan

Fonsini 27th Oct 2020 11:32

Well if we are allowed to get fanciful...

Single seat Strikemaster with a Mk16 seat, Williams FJ44-4 blower, HUD, inboard drops, outers stressed for 600 pounds, wired for wingtip 9 Lima, and a single BK27 with ammo on the other side via a crossfeed.

A bit silly perhaps but if you could make it for the same price as a Super Tucano.....who knows.

Impress to inflate 27th Oct 2020 12:23

I can't believe NONE of you have said Spitfire !! I'm disappointed in you all. All go away and think of your actions pls.

treadigraph 27th Oct 2020 12:25


Originally Posted by Impress to inflate (Post 10912759)
I can't believe NONE of you have said Spitfire !! I'm disappointed in you all. All go away and think of your actions pls.

Oh, I took the Spitfire for granted. XIV, cut down rear fuselage and unclipped...

canard68 27th Oct 2020 13:08

The A1D SkyRaider I remember one pilot telling me "it carried so much you could start your own war"

TLDNMCL 27th Oct 2020 15:44

Transport - VC10
AAR - Victor
Fighter / GA and sheer beauty - Hunter
Specialist capability - Harrier
Rotary - Wessex (later marks)
Trainer - JP5
For fun? The Shackleton, just to watch it "landing" ten feet off the ground for about half of the runway length.

NutLoose 27th Oct 2020 16:19


Originally Posted by pasta View Post
Plenty of Blaniks still around, including several for sale if you're keen to scratch that itch; the going rate for airworthy examples seems to be between 15,000-30,000 Euros.

Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10912714)
Cruel. very cruel ! .....but true...;).:D...however, it was great for loops, and stuff, as you just pointed down, , hoiked back and up and over she went

And plenty of room up top

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f36f64ccd.jpeg



https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9fc1d2aff.jpeg

unmanned_droid 27th Oct 2020 16:19

Gonna be greedy and say Martin Baker MB5 too.

And I would love to have seen the BAC.221 fly.

brakedwell 27th Oct 2020 16:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10912898)

When were these things ever in RAF Service?

NutLoose 27th Oct 2020 17:06

Here

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1722728

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1062314/

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1063386/


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0127ad07e4.jpg

Beamr 27th Oct 2020 17:23


Originally Posted by canard68 (Post 10912787)
The A1D SkyRaider I remember one pilot telling me "it carried so much you could start your own war"

Would love any of the Skyraiders. I'm in the understanding that it coped a lot of beating too (only by what I've read of the subject).

brakedwell 27th Oct 2020 21:07

Not exactly Royal Air Force, Nutloose.

Mechta 27th Oct 2020 23:06

Hawker Fury biplane

Supermarine Nighthawk. Someone's going to have to catch that pigeon.

typerated 28th Oct 2020 01:22


Originally Posted by vascodegama (Post 10912569)
SAAB Viggen instead of Jaguar and replace Lightning with same ac.

Touch paper light!

KC10 instead of Victor K2 .


Could not agree more about the Viggen. First flew in 1967 (before the Jaguar).
and (at the real risk of lighting blue touch paper) was a much more realistic answer to NATO's vulnerable airfields than Harrier ever could be.
You would have hole a lot of concrete to stop Viggens flying from an airfield!

In many ways the Draken was even more ahead of it's time- compare performance and range with the Lightning and consider it was running on just one Avon

4runner 28th Oct 2020 02:35


Originally Posted by West Coast (Post 10912487)
Wasn’t there an aborted effort to do this 3-4 years ago?

yes. Supposedly they were to be used as tankers. Even the engines are same same as a CRJ-100. Now the hornets tank each other off the boat and they are running out of airframe time. The A-3 was another one that should be brought back. It could tank AND electronic warfare. It would top off the strike aircraft whilst simultaneously jamming.

autoflight 28th Oct 2020 06:37

Catalina Flying Boat
 
One of the most amazing aircraft

Asturias56 28th Oct 2020 07:05

One going spare on Loch Ness.............

Krystal n chips 28th Oct 2020 08:05


Originally Posted by brakedwell (Post 10913046)
Not exactly Royal Air Force, Nutloose.

Priceless ! at last, the urban myth that has been around since 1949 has finally been debunked !..Who would have thunked prefacing GSA with RAF ( and some roundels here and there ) had nothing to do with the RAF ! ....:D

treadigraph 28th Oct 2020 08:58


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10913210)
One going spare by Loch Ness.............

Fixed that for you! :p

jmmoric 28th Oct 2020 10:20

F104 Starfigther :cool:

possel 28th Oct 2020 12:05


Originally Posted by unmanned_droid (Post 10912899)
Gonna be greedy and say Martin Baker MB5 too.

And I would love to have seen the BAC.221 fly.

I never saw the BAC.221 fly, but I did see it trying to fly at Farnborough in 1964 when it aborted its take-off on the Saturday!

Edit: (and of course that aircraft was never in RAF service either)

Hoddy 28th Oct 2020 12:07

LOMCEVAK - need a back seater?

Two's in 28th Oct 2020 15:35


Originally Posted by brakedwell (Post 10913046)
Not exactly Royal Air Force, Nutloose.

My first piloting experience was in a Blanik at RAF Odiham with an RAF instructor. Of course it was in RAF service. Did some really good engine off landings as well...

dogle 28th Oct 2020 15:58

No doubt all of us who knew what really happened have seen fit to draw a respectful veil of silence over dead_pan’s earlier mention of the highly secret Wiggins Aerodyne development, which was so tragically terminated.

That said, were I forced to pick a winner from all the splendid and much-loved aircraft thus far suggested, it would land - by a very short head indeed! - with Nutty’s offer of the (similarly named, but totally different) Fairey Rotodyne.

Oh, what a sad setback to military aviation was the political squashing of the Rotodyne project (and to civil for that matter - but for being a bit noisy, which wasn’t seen to be too big a problem back then) ... and, like so many others, to the once-proud UK aircraft industry.

ACW599 28th Oct 2020 16:43


Originally Posted by dogle (Post 10913591)
No doubt all of us who knew what really happened have seen fit to draw a respectful veil of silence over dead_pan’s earlier mention of the highly secret Wiggins Aerodyne development, which was so tragically terminated

Er, Beadwindow please. It isn't generally known that the Wiggins Aerodyne was "tragically terminated". In any event there was rather more to it than that.

SUPER JOLLY GREEN 28th Oct 2020 17:10

Two aircraft that, in my opinion, epitomized brute force, purposeful menace and raw power:

The Douglas A-1 Skyraider (especially in "Sandy" RESCORT/CSAR mode)

The Sikorsky MH-53M Pave Low (a thoroughbred beast of a Helicopter)

VX275 28th Oct 2020 17:33


Originally Posted by pulse1 (Post 10911636)
How about T21 and T31 gliders? Let's get the kids all over the country flying solo again.

Better still bring back the GAL Hotspur Mk III - Train 1 Cadet and give another 6 cadets gliding experience all on the same flight.


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